Holte End to be renamed?

[PeterWithesShin]

So it changes name every x years, the point is the same, over time people will stop calling it what it used to be. It doesn't matter if the name on it is commercial or not. A generation never knew it as the Witton Lane Stand so they don't call it that. If this sponsorship stuff happens then a generation will grow up never knowing it as The Holte End. Which is why i'm against it, but i'm not going to pretend that over time the new name won't be used more and more.

[dave.woodhall]

Ironically, the Holte has had more names than any other part of the ground.

[Toronto Villa]

Ironically, the Holte has had more names than any other part of the ground.

a bit like getting upset over a badge that has changed numerous times across our history.

[Chris Harte]

So it changes name every x years, the point is the same, over time people will stop calling it what it used to be. It doesn't matter if the name on it is commercial or not. A generation never knew it as the Witton Lane Stand so they don't call it that. If this sponsorship stuff happens then a generation will grow up never knowing it as The Holte End. Which is why i'm against it, but i'm not going to pretend that over time the new name won't be used more and more.

And how much value does this naming right have for whoever decides that their name rather than the Holte End will be the first new name? Not enough to make a difference in the grand scheme, is my bet.

Which begs the question (again), what's the point of doing it in the first place? Especially against the backdrop of the considerable amount of TV money coming in to the club.

[Chris Harte]

Ironically, the Holte has had more names than any other part of the ground.

Feel free to enlighten me and many others.

[dave.woodhall]

Ironically, the Holte has had more names than any other part of the ground.

Feel free to enlighten me and many others.

It's mentioned on here regularly. There was the Church end, the Aston end, the City end, the Holte Hotel end, the Holte end and finally it was called the Holte stand when re-opened in 1994 although that name was soon dropped in favour of the Holte end again. 

[Chris Harte]

Ironically, the Holte has had more names than any other part of the ground.

Feel free to enlighten me and many others.

It's mentioned on here regularly. There was the Church end, the Aston end, the City end, the Holte Hotel end, the Holte end and finally it was called the Holte stand when re-opened in 1994 although that name was soon dropped in favour of the Holte end again. 

At what point in time did it become the Holte Hotel End?

[dave.woodhall]

Ironically, the Holte has had more names than any other part of the ground.

Feel free to enlighten me and many others.

It's mentioned on here regularly. There was the Church end, the Aston end, the City end, the Holte Hotel end, the Holte end and finally it was called the Holte stand when re-opened in 1994 although that name was soon dropped in favour of the Holte end again. 

At what point in time did it become the Holte Hotel End?

After World War II I believe. More learned counsel than I has said that the first reference to the Holte end was made by Joe Mercer circa 1962. 

[walsall villain]

Ironically, the Holte has had more names than any other part of the ground.

Feel free to enlighten me and many others.

It's mentioned on here regularly. There was the Church end, the Aston end, the City end, the Holte Hotel end, the Holte end and finally it was called the Holte stand when re-opened in 1994 although that name was soon dropped in favour of the Holte end again. 

Sure we will still be singing 'Holte enders in the sky' whatever it's renamed as. From when was it known as the Holte end? I can't recall it ever being called anything else.

[walsall villain]

Oh question just answered. Thanks

[dave.woodhall]

I also believe that in ten years time the biggest complaint on this subject will be that the next/latest naming deal won't be for enough money.

[PeterWithesShin]

So it changes name every x years, the point is the same, over time people will stop calling it what it used to be. It doesn't matter if the name on it is commercial or not. A generation never knew it as the Witton Lane Stand so they don't call it that. If this sponsorship stuff happens then a generation will grow up never knowing it as The Holte End. Which is why i'm against it, but i'm not going to pretend that over time the new name won't be used more and more.

And how much value does this naming right have for whoever decides that their name rather than the Holte End will be the first new name? Not enough to make a difference in the grand scheme, is my bet.

Which begs the question (again), what's the point of doing it in the first place? Especially against the backdrop of the considerable amount of TV money coming in to the club.

Possibly a fair bit if they tie into a 10 year deal for example.

Because it's virtually free money. And possibly quite a bit for an extended period of time. I'm not sure too many businesses would turn that down.

I'm all for tradition, but the game has changed whether we as fans like it or not. It's why we're all going to VP tomorrow instead of at 3pm today. We play in a stadium that has no stand 40 years old, for anyone older than me there is no stand left from when they first started going. And in that time two of the stands have already changed their name. To take it to an extreme that things change, it's why we are going to VP and not Perry Barr tomorrow. We as fans may fucking hate some of the changes, but they still happen.

[Chris Harte]

Possibly a fair bit if they tie into a 10 year deal for example.

I see that as a huge "if."

It is a huge leap of faith by a commercial entity, especially if they take note of the club's spending habits over recent seasons and realise we seem happy to just stay in the division.

[NottsVillan]

The fact is that changing the name of the stand will cause bitter disagreement between lots of fans, is it really worth upsetting so many loyal fans just to raise a few quid?

[robbo1874]

Like I said earlier in the thread, those that go in it and those away fans that look at it  will still call it the Holte end. Nothing else is important.