Burnley v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Karlos96]

From what I can see the last time we beat Palace was September 1980, we won 1-0.

[ROBBO]

I was encouraged by the performance of Grealish, he should have scored but so should many of his teamates, his positioning seems very good and he has good control, hate those short socks though.
Gabby to my mind has a short attention span he starts at a hundred miles an hour and slows to walking pace the second half thinking about the night ahead i suppose. Even though Jack did okay i thought the substitutions overall weakened us.

[Mister E]

I have a different take on the second half, i don't think Lambert deliberately sends them out to defend the lead what happens is that Gabby and Weimanns work rate drops off and they stop closing down giving the opposition more room. Weimann in particular doesn't do enough, he expends a lot of energy for little result. Cole in the first half gave us a glimse of what a good footballer looks like, great control, good foot skills and a footballing brain, oh for a couple of younger versions.

i think you've summed it up well. GA and Weimann do drop a lot deeper and it just invites teams on. Yesterday was a really good example of it.
Having said that, Grealish had the chance to be a hero right at the end and unfortunately didn't take it.

[Clampy]

The first half was as good as I've seen us for a while., we played some very good stuff at times. We were nowhere near as good in the second half though and that's what cost us. Another poor substitution bringing on Richardson for Weimann. N'Zogbia or Robinson might have been a better option. Joe Cole made a big difference, in the first half anyway. A point away from home is never a bad result but we should be beating sides like that.

[silhillvilla]

I think we played a lot of good and inventive football today and not for the first time this season. But rather than it be cause for optimism it's actually a source of frustration for me that we see it so seldom. The ability appears to be there but the application from the coaching staff appears not to be.

That's the thing for me. The players do have the capability to be upper mid table . It's as though they are being held back, played out of position and coached badly .

[Chris Smith]

First half we looked good but as Cole inevitably tired our performance dipped. The annoying thing is that we had the game won, they had a go at us for 20 minutes that we dealt with and we were looking comfortable until we got undone by a hopeful punt forward that 99 times out of 100 is just nodded clear.

Benteke getting sent us has arguably cost us points in 4 games now.

[saunders_heroes]

Have we ever gone this far into a season with only 3 goal scorers? I can't bloody remember anything like it before.

[Chris Smith]

I think we played a lot of good and inventive football today and not for the first time this season. But rather than it be cause for optimism it's actually a source of frustration for me that we see it so seldom. The ability appears to be there but the application from the coaching staff appears not to be.

That's the thing for me. The players do have the capability to be upper mid table . It's as though they are being held back, played out of position and coached badly .

Confidence and a lack of leadership play a big part. You would hope that Vlaar or Senderos would not have been caught out like that at the end and that  Delph would try to keep the midfield driving forward. That's a collective failure of players, coaches and management.

[CJ]

As an aside to the game - massive respect for Danny Ings. There's a piece in today's Independent about how he was so inspired by the look of pure joy on a disabled lad's face when he gave the lad his match boots last year that he's set up a self-funded charitable foundation to help schools specialising in special educational needs. He's also led on the formation of Burnley's first adult disability football team. Just goes to show not all footballers are self absorbed arses

[saunders_heroes]

As an aside to the game - massive respect for Danny Ings. There's a piece in today's Independent about how he was so inspired by the look of pure joy on a disabled lad's face when he gave the lad his match boots last year that he's set up a self-funded charitable foundation to help schools specialising in special educational needs. He's also led on the formation of Burnley's first adult disability football team. Just goes to show not all footballers are self absorbed arses

Nice, but I still don't like him.

[SashasGrandad]

I thought the ref had a good game -considering it was his first premiership game - no complaints for any of his decisions. If we'd had Dowd or similar Okore would probably have seen red just to totally screw us up for another 3 games.

Robinson looked very sharp in the warm up - full of confidence - would have been interesting had he got the nod ahead of Grealish - would he have buried that late chance? Would have been very unfair on Grealish who deserves a chance.

Had we scored 2-3 in the first half they both could have had a chance in 2nd half.

[Ads]

Have we ever gone this far into a season with only 3 goal scorers? I can't bloody remember anything like it before.

Probably not, but at least we looked creative yesterday for once and possibly only the second time this season.

[saunders_heroes]

Have we ever gone this far into a season with only 3 goal scorers? I can't bloody remember anything like it before.

Probably not, but at least we looked creative yesterday for once and possibly only the second time this season.

True, but yet again we were undone when we gave up attacking and sat back and defended for our lives. Happens in every single game we play.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Have we ever gone this far into a season with only 3 goal scorers? I can't bloody remember anything like it before.

That worries me as well. if Benteke had been fit and played every game this season, scoring at a rate of a goal every 2 games, we'd still only be on 13 or 14 goals. As many as Albion or Hull.

[Ads]

I know and I am frustrated as anybody, but this morning I do at least feel a bit of hope given how we played for large parts. The results and manner of us dropping two points late on may be the same in Sputhampton and Burnley, but for me there is a world of difference in having none of the ball, one effort at goal and actually dominating with it and creating good goal scoring opportunities.

We know the players can do it, especially with Benteke back, but there just isn't the confidence from the manager that he can consistently churn out decent displays or learn from the lapses in concentration.

Fine margins, but and if (I know) for Ryan Mason, we may well be on at least 17 points, maybe more, and sat in the top half. The argument passes to that but for the manager we may be there anyway.