West Ham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread

[dave.woodhall]

All these people joining in with the official forum line about the silence (belittling it) should be ashamed of themselves. I had heard from other forums that H&V was full of people who just followed their leader. Now it has been confirmed. Most of the forum are good people but a small bunch sit there waiting to pounce on people, even if they agree with them. A dreadful collection of folk occupy the group of stooges and let down the majority of decent people on this forum.

Nice one Dennis. Now, before you run back to your little friends and tell them what a horrible, nasty man I am and they all agree, how about you, for once, pointing out one bit of evidence that backs up what you've just said? Just one post, then you can go back home.

Dave. There are loads on this forum that are far worse than you. Don't take it personally.

I'll take that as meaning you can't.

[Toronto Villa]

I hope the people who are really upset about this don't just pay their respects to our fallen heroes on Nov 11th. That you do it in different ways throughout the year. It's all a bit like Christmas Mass otherwise when you've never had any desire to go to church the other 364 days. Football doesn't have an obligation to this. We do, as individuals, and having this so far in advance is a bit silly really.

[Dennis Evans]

I hope the people who are really upset about this don't just pay their respects to our fallen heroes on Nov 11th. That you do it in different ways throughout the year. It's all a bit like Christmas Mass otherwise when you've never had any desire to go to church the other 364 days. Football doesn't have an obligation to this. We do, as individuals, and having this so far in advance is a bit silly really.

How strange that yet another person shares this view.

[Steve67]

Meanwhile, back in the pre match West Ham versus Villa thread.......

[saunders_heroes]

Why do football clubs feel the need to mark the occasion when we pay our respects on the 11th and Remembrance Sunday anyway? If a match falls on either day fair enough, but if it doesn't then we should just play the game. The cynic in me just thinks it's a PR style ticking of the box stunt.

[dave.woodhall]

Why do football clubs feel the need to mark the occasion when we pay our respects on the 11th and Remembrance Sunday anyway? If a match falls on either day fair enough, but if it doesn't then we should just play the game. The cynic in me just thinks it's a PR style ticking of the box stunt.

That's your trouble. You're always agreeing with me.

[footyskillz]

I agree and I am approximately there 15 mins before kick off.

just to defend some of the fans that came that day, it is a nightmare to get into West Ham, there was no announcement about the minutes silence and their Stewards hardly said a word about it.

UTV
The Doc

Similar things happened last week. It's downright daft to be holding Remembrance silences on November 1st.

You could have heard a pin drop in Villa Park. The silence was impeccably observed. It was the Club's last chance to do this before 11th November and most people in the ground applauded those taking part as they left the pitch area.

That's all well and good but it's a modern development that has no historical background.

Some of us like to pay our respects.

Its also noted that this year is specifically poignant with 100 years anniversary. I heard Villa gave some people -those involved with armed forces free admission as part of premier league initative and own clubs support. Similarly all premier league clubs this weekend are giving tickets for troops. I understand both sides of this discussion .

[pauliewalnuts]

I agree and I am approximately there 15 mins before kick off.

just to defend some of the fans that came that day, it is a nightmare to get into West Ham, there was no announcement about the minutes silence and their Stewards hardly said a word about it.

UTV
The Doc

Similar things happened last week. It's downright daft to be holding Remembrance silences on November 1st.

You could have heard a pin drop in Villa Park. The silence was impeccably observed. It was the Club's last chance to do this before 11th November and most people in the ground applauded those taking part as they left the pitch area.

That's all well and good but it's a modern development that has no historical background.

Some of us like to pay our respects.

Its also noted that this year is specifically poignant with 100 years anniversary. I heard Villa gave some people -those involved with armed forces free admission as part of premier league initative and own clubs support. Similarly all premier league clubs this weekend are giving tickets for troops. I understand both sides of this discussion .

There's nothing to suggest anyone even remotely disagrees with free tickets for soldiers, not even a suggestion of it.

That's a totally different thing, people are talking specifically about the silence / ceremony so far off the actual date.

The fact Dennis has got his knickers in a twist and equated suggesting that "why do it on a date which isn't even remembrance sunday" with "I don't respect our troops" is not only a half-baked, misinterpreted bit of self righteous nonsense, but also a bit depressing.

What kind of person suggests people don't like to pay their respects for daring to argue the above?

What does Dennis know about any of us, what losses our families have been through while serving their country? I'll answer that. Nothing. Which makes it a bit depressing to see him mounting his high horse.

[pauliewalnuts]

Also, out of interest, Dennis, did you use to post on TBAR by any chance?

[Toronto Villa]

I hope the people who are really upset about this don't just pay their respects to our fallen heroes on Nov 11th. That you do it in different ways throughout the year. It's all a bit like Christmas Mass otherwise when you've never had any desire to go to church the other 364 days. Football doesn't have an obligation to this. We do, as individuals, and having this so far in advance is a bit silly really.

How strange that yet another person shares this view.

Am I not entitled my own view? That's kind of how it works on here.

[ChicagoLion]

From the TV coverage  we got over here  the Club and Fans did a great job. It was very moving and as
I was watching it feeling very proud of my club for the way that they paid their respects.
At least when we do something like this Aston Villa do it right.

Well done to all concerned.

[Goldie.7]

Them 0 Us 1

I'll go with supertom's team. If Gabby starts with Weimann...... scrap everything.

[PeterWithesShin]

I hope the people who are really upset about this don't just pay their respects to our fallen heroes on Nov 11th. That you do it in different ways throughout the year. It's all a bit like Christmas Mass otherwise when you've never had any desire to go to church the other 364 days. Football doesn't have an obligation to this. We do, as individuals, and having this so far in advance is a bit silly really.

How strange that yet another person shares this view.

Am I not entitled my own view? That's kind of how it works on here.

No. You are our puppet!

[Dennis Evans]

Why do football clubs feel the need to mark the occasion when we pay our respects on the 11th and Remembrance Sunday anyway? If a match falls on either day fair enough, but if it doesn't then we should just play the game. The cynic in me just thinks it's a PR style ticking of the box stunt.

Welcome to stooge no.1.

[Dennis Evans]

From the TV coverage  we got over here  the Club and Fans did a great job. It was very moving and as
I was watching it feeling very proud of my club for the way that they paid their respects.
At least when we do something like this Aston Villa do it right.

Well done to all concerned.

Exactly what I thought.