Tom Cleverley loan watch

[lovejoy]

Can someone give a counter view here, if we keep TC23, what will he add?

[Boz]

Can someone give a counter view here, if we keep TC23, what will he add?

Not a lot for £7.5m

[Boz]

Although there is one glaring exception i am always wary of buying a player of that club, they are a pretty shrewd lot and if they thought he was decent they would not be selling him, on a free maybe but from what i've seen so far he isn't worth paying for.

Spot on, ManUre got rid of a dross player by their standards, saved a salary and saw Villa as a potential easy target for a few million transfer. If what I saw in the media recently is correct, he's looking for other options than staying at B6.

[silhillvilla]

Watching the game yesterday , I though Jamie O'Hara looks a more complete player and added more to the game than Tom Cleverley.
I'd be gutted if we signed him.

[brontebilly]

Let's be honest. If you are a back up player in this Villa squad you aren't very good.

Indeed, but it wasn't too long ago that the likes of Guzan, Delph, Clark and especially Hutton were written off by pretty much all fans and management. Sometimes players do turn it around but I'm not sure Cleverley himself knows what kind of player he is. Successive managers have had the same issue with him. Maybe a goal or two would give him a lift but there is a danger his career is heading in a Stephen Ireland like trajectory.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Does anybody know when we can send him back?

[silhillvilla]

Does anybody know when we can send him back?

I thought we could now but it is possibly May.

[danno]

Well, sometimes in the dugout by myself
I look across the team sheet
And I think of the things, you could be doing
And in my head I paint a picture

'Cause since you've been on loan
well, Everybody's been depressed
you've missed your every shot
And your free kicks are a mess

can't your loan be over?
Stop makin a fool out of me
Why can't your loan be over Cleverly?
Cleverley, Clever-ley, Cleverley

[silhillvilla]

Haha excellent

[Rigadon]

I've just had an email from the club trying to entice me to 3 games: 

"Those will see the likes of Steven Gerrard, Diego Costa and Peter Crouch arrive in B6 to face the likes of Tom Cleverley, Jores Okore and Ciaran Clark".

Not completely on topic but I thought it was slightly bizarre. 

[Drummond]

Whilst he may seem to be offering nothing, he's clearly pleasing the manager and doing good what's asked of him.

Perhaps under a different manager he'd be able to do the things we'd like.

[silhillvilla]

Yes perhaps LVG will know how to extract his best talents
Oh wait ..

[olaftab]

You can not fault his application. It's his talent that should be questioned.

[Hookeysmith]

I don't want him to be made a scapegoat for all that is wrong but fuck me he was awful again against Blackpool and its no coincidence that we suddenly had some drive and energy when he went off

He must be like Gabby and be a nodding dog when the manager speaks so they get picked every game

[Chris Smith]

To me he one of those bog standard midfield players, that every club outside the top 6 has, who plods along rarely doing anything particularly great but similarly rarely doing anything particularly bad. Probably useful to have in the squad if it allows better players freedom some from the mundane parts of the game and because he can cover a number of different roles.

I would not be upset if he did sign eventually but equally not that fussed if he went elsewhere.