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Offline dcdavecollett

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #255 on: January 04, 2015, 11:07:41 PM »
Delph will miss the next match -suspension.

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #256 on: January 04, 2015, 11:08:47 PM »
Well, I guess that solves that particular conundrum for at least one more match then!

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #257 on: January 04, 2015, 11:33:43 PM »
KEA was a big influence on the game than cleverley, does anyone think that he's being played out of position? I don't see it, but maybe this kind of wide but not really thing isn't helping him (clutching at straws here).

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #258 on: January 04, 2015, 11:34:00 PM »
On the basis that our manager doesn't appear to know his arse from his elbow, and makes seemingly random tactical changes, he'll probably pick Bacuna, Westwood Cleverley and Delph in a 5-4-1 just to confuse everyone.

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #259 on: January 04, 2015, 11:35:57 PM »
I play in midfield yet:

Never makes a tackle
Cannot head the ball
Not a box to box "engine" type of player
Seemingly does not have "Vision"
Does not make threaded passes that split defences
Is not a threat going forward
Is not an asset in defence
Does not shoot
Certainly does not score
Not a motivator or leader by example


Just WTF does he do?

Exactly.

He is an absolute nothing player, totally unremarkable, doesn't do anything particularly well, truly rubbish.

Cleverley just makes me respect more what Ferguson achieved in his final years there, if he had guff like Cleverley on the books.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #260 on: January 04, 2015, 11:41:03 PM »
I play in midfield yet:

Never makes a tackle
Cannot head the ball
Not a box to box "engine" type of player
Seemingly does not have "Vision"
Does not make threaded passes that split defences
Is not a threat going forward
Is not an asset in defence
Does not shoot
Certainly does not score
Not a motivator or leader by example


Just WTF does he do?

Exactly.

He is an absolute nothing player, totally unremarkable, doesn't do anything particularly well, truly rubbish.

Cleverley just makes me respect more what Ferguson achieved in his final years there, if he had guff like Cleverley on the books.

Players can look better than they actually are when they are just a cog in a well oiled machine.  It's when they have to influence games, you see if they have it.  Cleverley is clearly coming up short in influencing our games but, then again, is he being asked to.

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #261 on: January 05, 2015, 12:10:27 AM »
I was not a big fan of KEA I felt he struggled in alot of games and the pace of the league ,yet he added more to team than I have seen from Cleverly so far.

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #262 on: January 05, 2015, 01:02:54 AM »
Assuming nothing happens in either training or in transfer negotiations, the next match will be the first that Lambert has had all four of Cleverley, an in-form and up-to-speed Sanchez, Delph and Westwood available to pick from.

Who will miss out?

I think most would assume Cleverley to be the one to miss out based on performance, does anyone think that he might go differently?

I have a feeling he will play all four of them, pushing Cleverley into one of the 'wide forward' roles.

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #263 on: January 05, 2015, 02:49:33 AM »
Although there is one glaring exception i am always wary of buying a player of that club, they are a pretty shrewd lot and if they thought he was decent they would not be selling him, on a free maybe but from what i've seen so far he isn't worth paying for.

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #264 on: January 05, 2015, 04:50:07 AM »
Assuming nothing happens in either training or in transfer negotiations, the next match will be the first that Lambert has had all four of Cleverley, an in-form and up-to-speed Sanchez, Delph and Westwood available to pick from.

Who will miss out?

I think most would assume Cleverley to be the one to miss out based on performance, does anyone think that he might go differently?

I have a feeling he will play all four of them, pushing Cleverley into one of the 'wide forward' roles.

Think he will look to play a diamond four in midfield with Cole supporting Benteke. Would like to see Lambert try this anyway with Richardson or Bacuna instead of Delph the next day. Based on Lambert's comments re his selection against Blackpool he clearly doesn't rate some of his backup players.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #265 on: January 05, 2015, 05:56:01 AM »
Let's be honest. If you are a back up player in this Villa squad you aren't very good.

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #266 on: January 05, 2015, 08:14:08 AM »
I think it's telling that Cleverly has been subbed in the last two games.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #267 on: January 05, 2015, 08:50:30 AM »
Handing money to Yanited at the best of times is a pretty galling prospect. Handing them money for Tom Cleverley is very disturbing . Please don't.

Offline David_Nab

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #268 on: January 05, 2015, 08:58:43 AM »
I think it's telling that Cleverly has been subbed in the last two games.

Quite , he has been withdrawn as we needed a goal and he wasn't deemed as contributing enough in that respect.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Tom Cleverley loan watch
« Reply #269 on: January 05, 2015, 09:01:55 AM »
If we buy him for anything up to 3mil I wouldn't be too bothered. We need cover given our injury record.Lambert will probably buy him but the fee will not be disclosed and that will be frustrating. Apart from having a good engine Cleverley doesn't appear to have much else.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 09:03:52 AM by Ron Manager »

 


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