Tom Cleverley loan watch

[OCD]

Is he banned for Swansea or Saturday's game when he can't play anyway?

According to the FA he is banned for the Manure game. Which is a bonus.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/suspensions

The FA are geniuses.

[supertom]

Is he banned for Swansea or Saturday's game when he can't play anyway?

According to the FA he is banned for the Manure game. Which is a bonus.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/suspensions

The FA are geniuses.

We'd barely notice either way to be honest.

[JUAN PABLO]

Don't mean to change topic but how does Huddleston get one game for that tackle

[Villa in Denmark]

Don't mean to change topic but how does Huddleston get one game for that tackle

Because officially it's not violent conduct, whereas Benteke's was.

Go figure.

And whilst we're on the subject, although not normally one to wish ill on anyone, I do hope at some point that Verthongen gets one of his physical assault two footed lunges wrong and his studs dig into the turf with the inevitable havoc to his own ankle ligaments, as opposed to the damage he regularly risks causing his opponents.

[chrisw1]

Don't mean to change topic but how does Huddleston get one game for that tackle

Because officially it's not violent conduct, whereas Benteke's was.

& Richardson gets 3 too.  Strange rules sometimes.

[QBVILLA]

Don't mean to change topic but how does Huddleston get one game for that tackle

He has received a 3 match ban for the sending off and a further one game for reaching 5 yellows

[ozzjim]

His shooting, free kicks and corners are all truly appalling. He does work hard though and is half decent on the ball. I think there is a good player there but he needs to show it.

I wouldn't pay more than a couple of million for him based off what he's done so far.

About 3 million is a fair valuation. Any more and it is a real rip off, he has offered nothing going forward which has been a massive disappointment.

I would keep him until the end of the season, offer him a deal on a free and if he goes elsewhere not cry about it.

[QBVILLA]

Had many a pub discussion about Tom Cleverley when he was at Man United and playing for England. I never really knew what he did and could only give the reasoning that if he played regularly for United and England there was something I was obviously missing. Well I still don't know what he does.

[Boz]

If he was priced at say £1.5m and on Westwood like wages id have him in. But at £8m and his wages are probably more than double Westwoods he is simply not worth it.

Totally agree, no where near worth £8m. Unless the price drops, send him back. There must be better value around.

[passitsideways]

Had many a pub discussion about Tom Cleverley when he was at Man United and playing for England. I never really knew what he did and could only give the reasoning that if he played regularly for United and England there was something I was obviously missing. Well I still don't know what he does.

Situational player to stick in for tough away fixtures/at the end of games where an extra possession keeper/runner is needed. So a decent squad player for a lot of teams to have, but him getting games for England was ridiculous given how they've shunted someone like Milner out wide game after game during this period.

It's weird though, I seem to recall that when he was coming through years ago he was regarded as an attacking midfielder who could beat his man and get into the box.

[Malandro]

Had many a pub discussion about Tom Cleverley when he was at Man United and playing for England. I never really knew what he did and could only give the reasoning that if he played regularly for United and England there was something I was obviously missing. Well I still don't know what he does.

Let me know if you ever find out

[silhillvilla]

He needs to be sent back up the M6 in Jan.
It's bad enough gifting them 6 points every year but to be paying £8m for their jumble sale item would be a catastrophic misallocation of funds and judgment .
He's added nothing to what is a very mediocre midfield (albeit improving with the addition of Sanchez ) .

[Dave]

He needs to be sent back up the M6 in Jan.

Unless we're getting somebody better, why not just keep him until his season-long loan has finished?

It's not like he's keeping Iniesta or Modric out of our team.

[pauliewalnuts]

He needs to be sent back up the M6 in Jan.

Unless we're getting somebody better, why not just keep him until his season-long loan has finished?

It's not like he's keeping Iniesta or Modric out of our team.

Don't we have an option to send him back in January?

Could free up wage money for an incoming replacement.

I honestly don't see what he offers. People have made the point that he's too similar to Westwood. I don't think Westwood is particularly brilliant, but to me he offers much more than Cleverley.

[Dave]

My understanding is that we have him on loan until the end of the season unless:

a) we choose to buy him in January
b) somebody else chooses to buy him in January

If we can send him back and that means that we get somebody better then great. I'm not holding my breath though.