Tom Cleverley loan watch

[brontebilly]

16 games in, what do we make of Cleverley thus far?

For me he has been a big disappointment. Sure he puts in a decent shift and is mobile with it but we bought him to add quality to our final third.

Dont think he has an assist yet and rarely has looked like getting one.

Really thought he would come good with us but I'm struggling to see what he offers. Needs to harden up physically if he wants to play in central midfield but adds less with the ball than our other options. He isnt a holding midfielder nor does enough going forward to be an attacking one.

Delph in the last 20 mins today showed what I expected from Cleverley, driving forward with the ball from midfield and trying to make something happen.

[PeterWithesShin]

Overall i've been a bit disappointed. I'd swap him for Vlaar in January though.

[silhillvilla]

No way would I spend £8m on him.

[Dante Lavelli]

I suggested that we signed him before we were linked and got widely ridiculed. 
You were right, I was wrong.

The scary thought is that I'd struggle to name a player who would be a (near) guaranteed success for the reported 8m.  For that reason I'd swap with Vlaar if we have the chance, at least then each club would get something for their assets. 

[Steve67]

Very meh.

[silhillvilla]

Van Gaal trying to offload his shit on us . If he wants a swap deal let's have young or Valencia or both

[olaftab]

Cleverley is OK and had a decent game today but not if we have to pay £8M to make it permanent.

[Tuscans]

He has been as bad for us as he was for Man.Utd. Give him back to United and we'll take Fletcher instead.

[silhillvilla]

Fletcher ? Darren Fletcher ?

[PeterWithesShin]

He has been as bad for us as he was for Man.Utd. Give him back to United and we'll take Fletcher instead.

I definitely wouldn't take Fletcher. A bloke who is 31 soon and has made a total of about 30 league appearances in the last  three and a half years. At least at 25 there is a chance Cleverley will be an asset for a few years.

[Pete3206]

If he ever took a decent free kick, he might be useful. About as good as Westwood. Average.

[supertom]

Westwood mk2.
He's been average at best, mediocre for the most part. I don't think he's helped by our system though. There's potential for him to do well being pushed up to a number 10 sort of role, but Lambert seems to want to persist with the 4-3-2-1.

Would I pay 8 million? Nope.
I would trade him for Vlaar though in the faint hope he could come good. A better manager could get more out of someone like Cleverley, perhaps even Westwood too.

Sanchez has impressed me a lot more, even despite some of the frightening lapses in concentration.

[pauliewalnuts]

He has been as bad for us as he was for Man.Utd. Give him back to United and we'll take Fletcher instead.

I definitely wouldn't take Fletcher. A bloke who is 31 soon and has made a total of about 30 league appearances in the last  three and a half years. At least at 25 there is a chance Cleverley will be an asset for a few years.

Fletcher also has a serious medical problem.

I wouldn't keep Cleverley.

I've seen pretty much nothing that suggests he's worth £8m.

[PeterWithesShin]

I wouldn't keep Cleverley.

I've seen pretty much nothing that suggests he's worth £8m.

Neither have I, but i'd still do a straight swap with Vlaar, who isn't worth £8m either.

[saunders_heroes]

He has been as bad for us as he was for Man.Utd. Give him back to United and we'll take Fletcher instead.

I definitely wouldn't take Fletcher. A bloke who is 31 soon and has made a total of about 30 league appearances in the last  three and a half years. At least at 25 there is a chance Cleverley will be an asset for a few years.

Fletcher also has a serious medical problem.

I wouldn't keep Cleverley.

I've seen pretty much nothing that suggests he's worth £8m.

Same here. I'd hate us to spend that sort of money on someone as ordinary as Cleverly. Let's keep him till the end of the season on loan then send him back and spend the cash on someone who can actually create something from midfield.