First off, if he wasn't English he's be worth 2 million, tops.Second, he's only played for England because he also played for Man Utd. Delph looks a superior player and has done for the last two seasons.Third, if Cleverley is worth 8 million, then what is Ashley Westwood worth? And will Cleverley be playing ahead of Westwood, because as far as I can see, they are, to all intents and purposes, the same player. Why aren't we spending 8 million on a nailed-on first-teamer who can do something vaguely unexpected in the final third and maybe actually contribute with a goal threat, instead of blowing so much of our meagre budget on yet more squad players who look exactly like the ones we already have?
Quote from: SamTheMouse on August 28, 2014, 07:01:39 PMFirst off, if he wasn't English he's be worth 2 million, tops.Second, he's only played for England because he also played for Man Utd. Delph looks a superior player and has done for the last two seasons.Third, if Cleverley is worth 8 million, then what is Ashley Westwood worth? And will Cleverley be playing ahead of Westwood, because as far as I can see, they are, to all intents and purposes, the same player. Why aren't we spending 8 million on a nailed-on first-teamer who can do something vaguely unexpected in the final third and maybe actually contribute with a goal threat, instead of blowing so much of our meagre budget on yet more squad players who look exactly like the ones we already have?Nailed it.
Quote from: onje_villa on August 29, 2014, 10:23:36 AMQuote from: SamTheMouse on August 28, 2014, 07:01:39 PMFirst off, if he wasn't English he's be worth 2 million, tops.Second, he's only played for England because he also played for Man Utd. Delph looks a superior player and has done for the last two seasons.Third, if Cleverley is worth 8 million, then what is Ashley Westwood worth? And will Cleverley be playing ahead of Westwood, because as far as I can see, they are, to all intents and purposes, the same player. Why aren't we spending 8 million on a nailed-on first-teamer who can do something vaguely unexpected in the final third and maybe actually contribute with a goal threat, instead of blowing so much of our meagre budget on yet more squad players who look exactly like the ones we already have?Nailed it.This
Well with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.
And yet Roberto Martinez, Alex Ferguson, and Roy Hodgson all disagree with Sam et al. They work with the player and see a lot more. They know what he can produce and what he should be able to produce. Also £8m for a player in his last year suggests that he is valued even higher but that is what we can get him at now. So, I'm willing to see what he can bring to us if we do sign him. Which still hasn't been confirmed that we have even bid for him, has it? Have to wait for Lambert's press conference later.
Quote from: kippaxvilla2 on August 29, 2014, 10:41:10 AMWell with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.
Quote from: Clampy on August 29, 2014, 10:43:50 AMQuote from: kippaxvilla2 on August 29, 2014, 10:41:10 AMWell with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.I've no doubt there is, but is it the player we need right now?
Quote from: dicedlam on August 29, 2014, 11:01:45 AMQuote from: Clampy on August 29, 2014, 10:43:50 AMQuote from: kippaxvilla2 on August 29, 2014, 10:41:10 AMWell with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.I've no doubt there is, but is it the player we need right now?If KEA goes, then you could argue yes because it would leave us a little short in there if we pick up any injuries or suspensions.
Quote from: peter w on August 29, 2014, 10:45:57 AMAnd yet Roberto Martinez, Alex Ferguson, and Roy Hodgson all disagree with Sam et al. They work with the player and see a lot more. They know what he can produce and what he should be able to produce. Also £8m for a player in his last year suggests that he is valued even higher but that is what we can get him at now. So, I'm willing to see what he can bring to us if we do sign him. Which still hasn't been confirmed that we have even bid for him, has it? Have to wait for Lambert's press conference later.There isn't a press conference later, Lamberts pre hull was yesterday am wasn't it?