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Offline onje_villa

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #360 on: August 29, 2014, 10:23:36 AM »
First off, if he wasn't English he's be worth 2 million, tops.

Second, he's only played for England because he also played for Man Utd. Delph looks a superior player and has done for the last two seasons.

Third, if Cleverley is worth 8 million, then what is Ashley Westwood worth? And will Cleverley be playing ahead of Westwood, because as far as I can see, they are, to all intents and purposes, the same player. Why aren't we spending 8 million on a nailed-on first-teamer who can do something vaguely unexpected in the final third and maybe actually contribute with a goal threat, instead of blowing so much of our meagre budget on yet more squad players who look exactly like the ones we already have?

Nailed it.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #361 on: August 29, 2014, 10:25:49 AM »
I would go for Dembele as well. A class act.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #362 on: August 29, 2014, 10:27:54 AM »
First off, if he wasn't English he's be worth 2 million, tops.

Second, he's only played for England because he also played for Man Utd. Delph looks a superior player and has done for the last two seasons.

Third, if Cleverley is worth 8 million, then what is Ashley Westwood worth? And will Cleverley be playing ahead of Westwood, because as far as I can see, they are, to all intents and purposes, the same player. Why aren't we spending 8 million on a nailed-on first-teamer who can do something vaguely unexpected in the final third and maybe actually contribute with a goal threat, instead of blowing so much of our meagre budget on yet more squad players who look exactly like the ones we already have?

Nailed it.

This

Offline Des Little

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #363 on: August 29, 2014, 10:35:00 AM »
First off, if he wasn't English he's be worth 2 million, tops.

Second, he's only played for England because he also played for Man Utd. Delph looks a superior player and has done for the last two seasons.

Third, if Cleverley is worth 8 million, then what is Ashley Westwood worth? And will Cleverley be playing ahead of Westwood, because as far as I can see, they are, to all intents and purposes, the same player. Why aren't we spending 8 million on a nailed-on first-teamer who can do something vaguely unexpected in the final third and maybe actually contribute with a goal threat, instead of blowing so much of our meagre budget on yet more squad players who look exactly like the ones we already have?

Nailed it.

This

Can't argue with a word of that.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #364 on: August 29, 2014, 10:41:10 AM »
Well with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #365 on: August 29, 2014, 10:43:50 AM »
Well with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.

You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.

Offline onje_villa

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #366 on: August 29, 2014, 10:45:42 AM »
Agree with others though that if we were signing him to strengthen our squad and that we had the money for it, why not, he's obviously a decent player but clearly we are in desperate need of someone playing higher up the pitch.

Maybe we have the money for both?

Offline peter w

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #367 on: August 29, 2014, 10:45:57 AM »
And yet Roberto Martinez, Alex Ferguson, and Roy Hodgson all disagree with Sam et al. They work with the player and see a lot more. They know what he can produce and what he should be able to produce. Also £8m for a player in his last year suggests that he is valued even higher but that is what we can get him at now. So, I'm willing to see what he can bring to us if we do sign him. Which still hasn't been confirmed that we have even bid for him, has it? Have to wait for Lambert's press conference later.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #368 on: August 29, 2014, 10:52:43 AM »
And yet Roberto Martinez, Alex Ferguson, and Roy Hodgson all disagree with Sam et al. They work with the player and see a lot more. They know what he can produce and what he should be able to produce. Also £8m for a player in his last year suggests that he is valued even higher but that is what we can get him at now. So, I'm willing to see what he can bring to us if we do sign him. Which still hasn't been confirmed that we have even bid for him, has it? Have to wait for Lambert's press conference later.
There isn't a press conference later, Lamberts pre hull was yesterday am wasn't it?

Offline dicedlam

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #369 on: August 29, 2014, 11:01:45 AM »
Well with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.

You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.

I've no doubt there is, but is it the player we need right now?

Offline Le Lapin

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #370 on: August 29, 2014, 11:13:22 AM »
If Everton are in for him I don't think we'll have to worry about him coming to us.

I for one would welcome the lad, we are not blessed with such a wonderful midfield that that the addition of Cleverly would immediately drag us back. An experienced Premiership player will always be an addition to our squad, and after the last few transfer windows of Lamberts tenure it's experience we need. On the whole, baring a few exceptions, the bargain basement policy of transfers has failed this club.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #371 on: August 29, 2014, 11:15:15 AM »
Well with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.

You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.

I've no doubt there is, but is it the player we need right now?

If KEA goes, then you could argue yes because it would leave us a little short in there if we pick up any injuries or suspensions.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #372 on: August 29, 2014, 11:16:37 AM »
Well with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.

You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.

I've no doubt there is, but is it the player we need right now?

If KEA goes, then you could argue yes because it would leave us a little short in there if we pick up any injuries or suspensions.

If KEA stays, then you could argue yes as the impact on the squad will be exactly the same as if he left.

Offline peter w

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #373 on: August 29, 2014, 11:19:53 AM »
And yet Roberto Martinez, Alex Ferguson, and Roy Hodgson all disagree with Sam et al. They work with the player and see a lot more. They know what he can produce and what he should be able to produce. Also £8m for a player in his last year suggests that he is valued even higher but that is what we can get him at now. So, I'm willing to see what he can bring to us if we do sign him. Which still hasn't been confirmed that we have even bid for him, has it? Have to wait for Lambert's press conference later.
There isn't a press conference later, Lamberts pre hull was yesterday am wasn't it?

Really? Missed it.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #374 on: August 29, 2014, 11:23:43 AM »
Well with hopefully a choice of Valencia, Hull or Everton as well it won't be happening anyway.

You could argue there must be a player in there somewhere if four clubs are after him.

Of course theres a player in there , if hes two million

 


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