Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed

[Ryu]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/

A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.

Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have

A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.

So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.

We need creativity, not Tom cleverly

Who should we sign?

I'm not paid to be villa scout but I know 8 million for him is a joke

Look at the money being paid elsewhere.  These sort of fees are just the reality if you want a player with the much vaunted premier league experience.  We have a better squad than last season and this would add to it.  I don't know why people are slitting their wrists.  Anyone would think they enjoy slagging off the club and players who we haven't even signed and haven't kicked a ball for us yet!

In other news, Alonso got 1 assist last season.

So that ok then

Dawson at 3 million is good value for example , there are deals out there

Some clubs will pay over the top for certain *good players*

But for villa to pay 8 million for a player who looked very poor at manure , can we afford too ?

Apparently we can afford it, as Lerner has agreed to spend it.  And as I always do I'm going to give someone a few games in a Villa shirt before deciding if I think he's good or not.

And we haven't even signed him yet!  He could still go Hull, they of the brilliant Dawson deal.

[JUAN PABLO]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/

A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.

Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have

A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.

So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.

We need creativity, not Tom cleverly

Who should we sign?

I'm not paid to be villa scout but I know 8 million for him is a joke

Look at the money being paid elsewhere.  These sort of fees are just the reality if you want a player with the much vaunted premier league experience.  We have a better squad than last season and this would add to it.  I don't know why people are slitting their wrists.  Anyone would think they enjoy slagging off the club and players who we haven't even signed and haven't kicked a ball for us yet!

In other news, Alonso got 1 assist last season.

So that ok then

Dawson at 3 million is good value for example , there are deals out there

Some clubs will pay over the top for certain *good players*

But for villa to pay 8 million for a player who looked very poor at manure , can we afford too ?

Apparently we can afford it, as Lerner has agreed to spend it.  And as I always do I'm going to give someone a few games in a Villa shirt before deciding if I think he's good or not.

And we haven't even signed him yet!  He could still go Hull, they of the brilliant Dawson deal.

lets hope Bruce comes up with the fee .

[JUAN PABLO]

If cleverly is that good and was at Wigan . I'm surprised as dave pointed out, Martinez is not in for him

[Clampy]

If cleverly is that good and was at Wigan . I'm surprised as dave pointed out, Martinez is not in for him

Maybe he feels he dosen't need him and besides, Everton have spent a fortune already by their standards.

[JUAN PABLO]

We don't need him neither

[class-of-82]

If Shane long is worth 12 mill then I will av wat mr koeman is drinking

[Ryu]

If Shane long is worth 12 mill then I will av wat mr koeman is drinking

Thing is, if Shane Long compliments their other attackers and scores around 10-12 goals he will basically ave been worth it.  Big ifs obviously but that's they way it is now.  Same as if Cleverly improves our ball retention and makes us a better footballing team he would prove to be worth it.

[Taylor]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/

A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.

Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have

A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.

So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.

We need creativity, not Tom cleverly

Who should we sign?

I'm not paid to be villa scout but I know 8 million for him is a joke

Look at the money being paid elsewhere.  These sort of fees are just the reality if you want a player with the much vaunted premier league experience.  We have a better squad than last season and this would add to it.  I don't know why people are slitting their wrists.  Anyone would think they enjoy slagging off the club and players who we haven't even signed and haven't kicked a ball for us yet!

In other news, Alonso got 1 assist last season.

So that ok then

Dawson at 3 million is good value for example , there are deals out there

Some clubs will pay over the top for certain *good players*

But for villa to pay 8 million for a player who looked very poor at manure , can we afford too ?

Apparently we can afford it, as Lerner has agreed to spend it.  And as I always do I'm going to give someone a few games in a Villa shirt before deciding if I think he's good or not.

And we haven't even signed him yet!  He could still go Hull, they of the brilliant Dawson deal.

lets hope Bruce comes up with the fee .

If Cleverley chooses Hull over us, then that just proves what state we are in. Chose life, chose Villa.

[Clampy]

We don't need him neither

We do with Gardner gone and if KEA does go. I'm fine with the player, £8m just sounds a bit much.

[Phil from the upper holte]

He's perfectly good enough for our level.

Is the correct answer

[Risso]

Well, I think he'd be a big improvement on KEA, Sylla and Westwood.  £8m is a bit pricey, mind.  A midfield 3 of Sanchez, Delph and Cleverley would be an improvement on the last two years, for sure.

[N'ZMAV]

Shit. Is this really happening?

[Mister E]

The way I see it is, he is energetic and will want to make a new start and prove people wrong.
He wouldn't have been my obvious candidate, but with him and Delph in the same midfield we will have dynamism and pace: combined with a mix from Sanchez, Westwood, N'Zog, Grealish and Cole, I think we will have a pretty tight midfield.
We just need a goalscorer now ....

[Ian.]

If true he's a great signing and our midfield will have gone from being absolute terribly to pretty damn good.
Now we need Benteke fit ASAP as I can't imagine any more coming in and we really can't hit a barn door with the forwards that are fit.

[Ryu]

Well, I think he'd be a big improvement on KEA, Sylla and Westwood.  £8m is a bit pricey, mind.  A midfield 3 of Sanchez, Delph and Cleverley would be an improvement on the last two years, for sure.

On paper that really doesn't look too shabby.