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Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #105 on: August 28, 2014, 06:49:36 PM »
And trying our best to let Delph go for free next year...

We're run ever so well these days.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #106 on: August 28, 2014, 06:52:22 PM »
I wouldnt trust Lambert with another penny. When he came it was we will score more than you attitude now its worse than TSM anti football. He seems to be getting a seige mentality.

We're certainly collecting defensive midfielders.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #107 on: August 28, 2014, 06:53:14 PM »
This has to be the equivalent of paying £90k for a 57 plate Mondeo.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #108 on: August 28, 2014, 06:54:15 PM »
average player for average expectations

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #109 on: August 28, 2014, 06:55:57 PM »
average player for average expectations
For lots of money

Offline Ryu

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #110 on: August 28, 2014, 06:56:09 PM »
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/


A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.
Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have




A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.
So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #111 on: August 28, 2014, 06:56:20 PM »
So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

He's certainly improve our possession percentages, what with his side and back passes. Can't wait.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #112 on: August 28, 2014, 06:58:29 PM »
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/


A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.
Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have




A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.
So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.
We need creativity, not Tom cleverly


Offline Ryu

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #113 on: August 28, 2014, 07:00:08 PM »
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/


A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.
Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have




A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.
So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.
We need creativity, not Tom cleverly



Who should we sign?

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #114 on: August 28, 2014, 07:00:24 PM »
Anyone would think England are actually good

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2014, 07:01:10 PM »
So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

He's certainly improve our possession percentages, what with his side and back passes. Can't wait.

Ray Wilkins isn't doing anything at the moment . We could have signed him on a free and got exactly the same result.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2014, 07:01:17 PM »
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/


A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.
Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have




A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.
So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.
We need creativity, not Tom cleverly



Who should we sign?
I'm not paid to be villa scout but I know 8 million for him is a joke

Offline SamTheMouse

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2014, 07:01:39 PM »
First off, if he wasn't English he's be worth 2 million, tops.

Second, he's only played for England because he also played for Man Utd. Delph looks a superior player and has done for the last two seasons.

Third, if Cleverley is worth 8 million, then what is Ashley Westwood worth? And will Cleverley be playing ahead of Westwood, because as far as I can see, they are, to all intents and purposes, the same player. Why aren't we spending 8 million on a nailed-on first-teamer who can do something vaguely unexpected in the final third and maybe actually contribute with a goal threat, instead of blowing so much of our meagre budget on yet more squad players who look exactly like the ones we already have?

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2014, 07:04:41 PM »
If someone pays 6 million for KEA , ill be happier

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Tom Cleverley
« Reply #119 on: August 28, 2014, 07:05:36 PM »
Would rather have kept any of KEA, Sylla or Holman than sign this clown for £8m

 


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