Tom Cleverley - Loan Confirmed

[ChicagoLion]

Does Cleverley bring anything that Richardson does not? It does not matter anyway because Lambert will continue to play the static 4-3-3 system with orders to retreat and only attack on the break.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Agree on all points, Sam.

Can somebody tell me why we need another defensive midfielder?

[AGRIPPA]

So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

He's certainly improve our possession percentages, what with his side and back passes. Can't wait.

That's all that Westwood can do

[Ryu]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/

A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.

Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have

A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.

So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.

We need creativity, not Tom cleverly

Who should we sign?

I'm not paid to be villa scout but I know 8 million for him is a joke

Look at the money being paid elsewhere.  These sort of fees are just the reality if you want a player with the much vaunted premier league experience.  We have a better squad than last season and this would add to it.  I don't know why people are slitting their wrists.  Anyone would think they enjoy slagging off the club and players who we haven't even signed and haven't kicked a ball for us yet!

In other news, Alonso got 1 assist last season.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I don't know why people are slitting their wrists.  Anyone would think they enjoy slagging off the club and players who we haven't even signed and haven't kicked a ball for us yet!

Maybe because we don't bloody need him. There are plenty of other positions to spend the money, buying another defensive midfielder isn't a priority.

[Hoppo]

Ryu.. Your too sensible mate.

[UK Redsox]

When Shane Long costs £12m and the bottom club in the Championship have paid £11m for a striker to play on the wing, £8m for a recent England international like Cleverley doesn't seem that unreasonable.

[Chipsticks]

The comparrisons to Alonso are absolutely ridiculous. His wages alone will likely soon overtake our deal in terms of financial outgoing, let alone add ons.

I think this is a very interesting signing, all the best to Tom if true!

[Ryu]

Ryu.. Your too sensible mate.

I've just got this thing where I'd rather choose to feel optimistic when (potentially) signing a new player.  Who knows how it will work out?  Who knows what formation Lambert plans to play when Benteke is back?  Anyway, all this misery is ruining my good mood.  I'm going to the county cricket thread and hopefully watch the bears polish off Essex

[JUAN PABLO]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/

A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.

Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have

A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.

So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.

We need creativity, not Tom cleverly

Who should we sign?

I'm not paid to be villa scout but I know 8 million for him is a joke

Look at the money being paid elsewhere.  These sort of fees are just the reality if you want a player with the much vaunted premier league experience.  We have a better squad than last season and this would add to it.  I don't know why people are slitting their wrists.  Anyone would think they enjoy slagging off the club and players who we haven't even signed and haven't kicked a ball for us yet!

In other news, Alonso got 1 assist last season.

So that ok then

Dawson at 3 million is good value for example , there are deals out there

Some clubs will pay over the top for certain *good players*

But for villa to pay 8 million for a player who looked very poor at manure , can we afford too ?

[ACVilla]

Great signing, young lad who looked very, very good, got into the England squad when he was out of form and got ridiculed left, right and centre by fans, press and social media.

If he regains his confidence he will double his value in a year.

Well happy.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Simply too much money for a very average player who I struggle to see adding anything to our midfield cause for creativity - see A Villa v Orient last night.

[Malandro]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/28/aston-villa-bid-8m-for-tom-cleverley-bayern-munich-on-brink-of-5m-xabi-alonso-deal-twitter-goes-into-meltdown-4849460/

A great big meh.  Alonso is 33, not really comparable.  Twitter will be in 'meltdown' until the next funny/shocking incident that gets the 5 second attention span mouth breathers all excited.  This is the second meltdown today after that Zara striped pyjamas thing.

Alonso could be 39 , I still know which one I would have

A player has to want to play for you to sign him.  And you need to be able to pay his wages without bankrupting the club.

So 8 million is good value for a bloke who can't score and create

That's what I said isn't it?  If you look at any of my posts on Cleverley you'll see I've said he's not someone I've particularly rated, I just don't think he's terrible.

I'd love to see your reaction if we spent 5m on a 33 year old!

I remember reading on here a few years ago quite a lot of people pointing to the fact that Modric hadn't scored or got many, if any, assists for Spurs one season being evidence he was either rubbish or overrated.  and Modric is obviously a top player and I don't think anyone would say otherwise.  My point is assists can be a misleading statistic.  Some players are in the team and play in positions where you pick up assists, some are there to start moves so don't play the final pass very often.

And finally, yes, like it or not £8m for a 25 year old who's played for England is good value in today's market.

We need creativity, not Tom cleverly

Who should we sign?

I'm not paid to be villa scout but I know 8 million for him is a joke

Look at the money being paid elsewhere.  These sort of fees are just the reality if you want a player with the much vaunted premier league experience.  We have a better squad than last season and this would add to it.  I don't know why people are slitting their wrists.  Anyone would think they enjoy slagging off the club and players who we haven't even signed and haven't kicked a ball for us yet!

In other news, Alonso got 1 assist last season.

agree, not the worst player. I would have preferred Ki  but it doesn't look like that option is there.

[class-of-82]

Crickey let's hope he don't read this thread b4 he signs
Give the kid a chance

[JUAN PABLO]

Great signing, young lad who looked very, very good, got into the England squad when he was out of form and got ridiculed left, right and centre by fans, press and social media.

If he regains his confidence he will double his value in a year.

Well happy.

. 16 million in two years . ill have what you're having