Other Games 2014-15

[Axl Rose]

Is it just me, or is there something I'm missing regarding Barkley? I've heard rave reviews, but have yet to see him reach such heights.

[john e]

Arsenal I think

Ok, that would be nice

[Axl Rose]

Connor Wickham has a face that needs to be punched. And he's pretty rubbish

[Toronto Villa]

Rubbish. You don't have to win the world cup to be considered the best. It takes 11 players to win it, he can't do it on his own.

I imagine some would have different opinion of Maradona also if that game and that incident hadn't taken place in 1986. Also what would people think about him if we had access to his games, goals and highlights like we do Messi today? There simply wasn't the depth of coverage as there is today.

There is no doubt Messi is absolutely sensational but it will always be a legitimate argument as long as Messi doesn't bring a WC to his country. Brazil was such a great opportunity and he wasn't able to elevate his game throughout the tournament as Maradona did in 1986 and to a lesser extent in 1990. And you can certainly make the case that he had around him far greater talent, especially in midfield and attack to help him than Maradona had.

Can you clarify why it's so crucial that Messi win the World Cup but it doesn't matter that Maradona didn't win any European Cups? Napoli played in it twice, it's not like he didn't have the opportunity to do so.

If Messi is expected to drag Argentina to World Cup victory just to keep par with Maradona, surely Maradona should be expected to have matched Messi's achievements in other areas, which he failed to do?

And let's say that Higuain didn't miss those two chances in the Final last summer and Argentina had gone on to win - does that somehow make Messi a much better player even though he did nothing differently?

I didn't say it was crucial. I said it creates a legitimate argument which clearly it continues to do. And I haven't even given my opinion on Messi vs Maradona either because for me it goes either way.

[Goldie.7]

Sunderland keeper having a blinder so far.

[olaftab]

And let's say that Higuain didn't miss those two chances in the Final last summer and Argentina had gone on to win - does that somehow make Messi a much better player even though he did nothing differently?

OK fair enough that could have happened but when it didn't that is where true greats show their worth. There was plenty of time post those misses and than extra time even after the German goal but......

[VillaAlways]

Got a bad feeling about this. Hope to God I'm wrong

[Malandro]

I didn't realise Derek Mountfield was part of Everton's league winning team

[PaulWinch again]

I listened to a bit on the radio it sounded like there were about 4 people there.

[VillaAlways]

Shit

[Axl Rose]

fucks sake

[OzVilla]

Fuck me. How jammy is that.

[Malandro]

Lucky ******

[Axl Rose]

come on Everton!

[Goldie.7]

oh dear