Birmingham Mail and Villa coverage

[paul_e]

but what does it matter?  That's what I can't work out, it's a bit shit but so is that newspaper so why is anyone bothered?

[Stirchley Villain]

but what does it matter?  That's what I can't work out, it's a bit shit but so is that newspaper so why is anyone bothered?

Nothing really matters on here in the grand scheme of things. Shades of claret, names of stands, closure of pubs, chants, etc etc. So why bother commenting on any of it?

[paul_e]

That's honestly the best you can come out with from this, you're upset that we get called claret and blues because it has 'blues' in it (but not because you give a rat's ass about them) and when I ask why it matters your suggestion is along the lines of telling me not to bother posting on the site anymore.

[Stirchley Villain]

That's honestly the best you can come out with from this, you're upset that we get called claret and blues because it has 'blues' in it (but not because you give a rat's ass about them) and when I ask why it matters your suggestion is along the lines of telling me not to bother posting on the site anymore.

Ok. I'm bored of you now.

[Toronto Villa]

Isn't the bigger issue Paul that this is our local paper. We are the biggest club comfortably in the area and they should be supporting and promoting us. They do precisely the opposite on a daily basis and further alienate the fan base who you would think they would want supporting their publication. That they are calling us claret and blues in the grand scheme of the world means nothing at all, but they are that fly that keeps buzzing around the room that you try but cannot ignore.

[paul_e]

Isn't the bigger issue Paul that this is our local paper. We are the biggest club comfortably in the area and they should be supporting and promoting us. They do precisely the opposite on a daily basis and further alienate the fan base who you would think they would want supporting their publication. That they are calling us claret and blues in the grand scheme of the world means nothing at all, but they are that fly that keeps buzzing around the room that you try but cannot ignore.

Yes but this is such a minor thing that it's got little bearing on that.  They've done loads of really shitty things that have been mentioned in this thread but this one doesn't seem to be an intentional insult and I doubt they'd even understand why a small number of people see it as one.  This is just a cheesy way to refer to the club that is basically just say what colours we wear, I wouldn't use it myself but if Gregg wants to then carry on, it's not like any of us really care about his opinions on the club anyway.

That's honestly the best you can come out with from this, you're upset that we get called claret and blues because it has 'blues' in it (but not because you give a rat's ass about them) and when I ask why it matters your suggestion is along the lines of telling me not to bother posting on the site anymore.

Ok. I'm bored of you now.

I got there long before you, I just find it amusing that you don't understand how silly you sound.

[Stirchley Villain]

And yet you keep replying. I'm not sure why you're being so aggressive. It's only a discussion about stupid comments in a stupid newspaper. You really need to get a life.

[dave.woodhall]

If you could play nicely I'd be a lot happier.

[Stirchley Villain]

Sure

[paul_e]

And yet you keep replying. I'm not sure why you're being so aggressive. It's only a discussion about stupid comments in a stupid newspaper. You really need to get a life.

I'm not being aggressive, I simply said that I don't see how this is a problem and that if it's because the word 'blues' is involved then that's taking obsessive hatred to a frankly ridiculous level.  That last bit has clearly touched a nerve with you because even though "It's only a discussion about stupid comments in a stupid newspaper" I now need to 'get a life' and you've gone hugely defensive for a few comments.  I didn't actually mean anyone in particular when I said it (I didn't think there were any fans on here that were like that) but I'm now starting to wonder if you might be the type of person who checks to see if they've lost before you check our result.

[Stirchley Villain]

I'm calling it a day old son. Respecting the site and all that...

[peter w]

but what does it matter?  That's what I can't work out, it's a bit shit but so is that newspaper so why is anyone bothered?

To be honest paul it shouldn't need to be spelled. To some it means nothing but I reckon quite a few people will not like the Shits nickname mentioned in any connection to us. And quite right they are to.

[Duncan Shaw]

Theres a stroy on their rag this morning - clicked a link so went on there - saying "Villa new signing (Tshibola) rejected by Albion"

[Diablo]

Theres a stroy on their rag this morning - clicked a link so went on there - saying "Villa new signing (Tshibola) rejected by Albion"

Aaron Tshibola is so sure that Aston Villa will return to the Premier League at the first attempt that he shunned a move to the top-flight this summer.
The 21-year-old midfielder joined from Reading in a £5.5m deal after saying no to rivals Albion and fellow Championship outfit Norwich.
Tshibola felt that his personal progression would be aided by a move to Villa, especially as assistant boss Steve Clarke handed him his debut less than a year ago.

And he believes this next campaign will benefit his career in times ahead 'when, not if' the claret and blues bounce back to the top division.
“For me it was all about playing football,” he said at the pre-season training camp in Austria.
“Other clubs had bids accepted but then I knew it wasn’t the right opportunity for myself.

“When I heard about Villa, at first I thought, na, whatever (that's just speculation).
“Then when I heard that a bid had been accepted, I was over the moon.
“When I heard of the Villa interest there was only one place I wanted to go.”

Tshibola has been training hard in Austria after recovering from a hamstring injury that ended his season back in January.
And he can’t wait for the season to start.
“I’m feeling good. I’ve trained and I’m ready.
“It’s a blessing for me from God.
“I would never have thought from getting those injuries that I would be here.
“It’s a blessing. I’m thankful.
“Now it’s for me to keep myself right.”

[Nev]

Isn't the bigger issue Paul that this is our local paper. We are the biggest club comfortably in the area and they should be supporting and promoting us. They do precisely the opposite on a daily basis and further alienate the fan base who you would think they would want supporting their publication. That they are calling us claret and blues in the grand scheme of the world means nothing at all, but they are that fly that keeps buzzing around the room that you try but cannot ignore.

I will always argue that no local media outlet has a duty to either support or promote us, or any other club. What they should do though is provide coverage, and that coverage should be fair and balanced. I don't want the media to report anything other than the facts, from boardroom to pitch level and this is their duty to readers and fans. Occasionally they may make an editorial decision to provide an opinion where they believe the best interests of the club and fans are not being served, but by and large a neutral brief should be the order of the day.

I can recall the Mail and Radio WM working along these lines many years ago, and while BRMB/Extra were a bit more tub-thumping so to speak, the principle remained.

In the desperate clamour for readers/listeners, many media outlets have now strayed from this line of reporting and this is true of so many national newpapers. Where there may have been a right/left slant to stories, now opinion comes before fact.

In their dying throes, reporting will become more extreme in attempt to prolong their existance. That's why we have todays Birmingham Mail and BBC WM.