Birmingham Mail and Villa coverage

[Clampy]

I'm not going to even bother clicking on the link. It's pathetic really.

[Risso]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

[Jimbo]

Trolls.

[Stu]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

[dave.woodhall]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

The club have made it quite clear that they couldn't care less.

[KevinGage]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

I wouldn't entirely be against that approach - I think Swindon tried similar earlier this season, so it has been done.

The danger in doing it now is it looks like censorship; we don't like the press saying bad things about us despite this being as bad a Villa side as many can recall.

WE KNOW it isn't as straightforward as that. These kind of shit stirring articles are completely divorced from what is actually going on the pitch and have become the norm. But the outside world won't see it like that, it will be painted as trying to stifle honest journalism at a time when the club does actually deserve criticism.

Better to starve them of access when we are doing better.

[Godfrey Brian]

 "I remember a little about the game" The former Brazilian superstar went on to say " My stronger recollection is post-match when a local businessman connected to the club ,  taught me how to do something the English call 'The overhead bicycle kick'"........
 

[Clampy]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

The club have made it quite clear that they couldn't care less.

I wouldn't expect them to re-act to a story like this but the statement they put out regarding the cost of the badge was a start.

[Pat McMahon]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-fan-asks-former-11163881?

Now fair play to Marilyn for calling the repellant twat out - I just listened to it and she got under his skin.  And fair play to the Mail for twisting into a 'Villa fan Wants Savage to Manage Villa' nonsense.

Listened to a snippet of 606 after the game and they had some absolute twat of a Blues fan on who spent most of his call talking about - you've guessed it - Villa.  Ticked all the boxes of the usual myths spouted by noses before a brief mention at the end of the Blues result.  Called all the way from Australia as well.

I heard that call in the car. It was almost a parody, calling from Australia to talk about us. I am out out of the loop here in London but that brought home how obsessed with us some of our rivals are.

[tomd2103]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

The club have made it quite clear that they couldn't care less.

Even the new regime Dave?  Would it be worth a letter to Messrs Hollis, Bernstein and Bevington?

[tomd2103]

Trolls.

Yep, totally unnecessary as well.  I mean how easy would have it been to write an article saying about Pele's upcoming appearance in Birmingham (of which it gives hardly any details) and then a bit about his appearance at Villa Park.  Could have interviewed a former player who played in the game - job done.

[Risso]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

I wouldn't entirely be against that approach - I think Swindon tried similar earlier this season, so it has been done.

The danger in doing it now is it looks like censorship; we don't like the press saying bad things about us despite this being as bad a Villa side as many can recall.

WE KNOW it isn't as straightforward as that. These kind of shit stirring articles are completely divorced from what is actually going on the pitch and have become the norm. But the outside world won't see it like that, it will be painted as trying to stifle honest journalism at a time when the club does actually deserve criticism.

Better to starve them of access when we are doing better.

There's a big difference between reporting fairly on what has been a truly dismal season, and just making shite like the above story up for shits and giggles. There's more than enough genuinely bad news at the club surely, without having to invent more.

[Clampy]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

I wouldn't entirely be against that approach - I think Swindon tried similar earlier this season, so it has been done.

The danger in doing it now is it looks like censorship; we don't like the press saying bad things about us despite this being as bad a Villa side as many can recall.

WE KNOW it isn't as straightforward as that. These kind of shit stirring articles are completely divorced from what is actually going on the pitch and have become the norm. But the outside world won't see it like that, it will be painted as trying to stifle honest journalism at a time when the club does actually deserve criticism.

Better to starve them of access when we are doing better.

There's a big difference between reporting fairly on what has been a truly dismal season, and just making shite like the above story up for shits and giggles. There's more than enough genuinely bad news at the club surely, without having to invent more.

Agree entirely. You do wonder what's going to come next. They've turned into bloggers rather than journalist's.

[Exeter 77]

They do this kind of hatchet job on Villa but where was/is their questioning of the issues involved in the ownership of the lot in Bordesley Green?

[tomd2103]

Even that idiot Gregg Evans would be embarrassed to gave writen that. An example of how dismal it is:

"The former wonderkid of world soccer - Pele made his Brazil debut at 16 - is a fan of the British game, even if he doesn’t scour the internet for Villa results.

Even AWOL Villa fans have long lost the desire to research their team’s latest embarrassment.

And lurking beneath the golden Brazil shirt is a closet Manchester United fan, Pele confessed"

I'm hoping the new regime do something about our PR. It's pretty crazy that the city's local paper takes the piss out of one it's teams to this degree.

I'm in a pretty reactionary mood at the moment, so I say we should ban the Mail's writers from the ground - they can get their reports from the Press Association or somewhere.

I wouldn't entirely be against that approach - I think Swindon tried similar earlier this season, so it has been done.

The danger in doing it now is it looks like censorship; we don't like the press saying bad things about us despite this being as bad a Villa side as many can recall.

WE KNOW it isn't as straightforward as that. These kind of shit stirring articles are completely divorced from what is actually going on the pitch and have become the norm. But the outside world won't see it like that, it will be painted as trying to stifle honest journalism at a time when the club does actually deserve criticism.

Better to starve them of access when we are doing better.

There's a big difference between reporting fairly on what has been a truly dismal season, and just making shite like the above story up for shits and giggles. There's more than enough genuinely bad news at the club surely, without having to invent more.

They can't help themselves and don't even disguise it anymore.  The main story on the back page on the Thursday and Friday before the Cup Final last season was about Benteke leaving.  They are an embodiment of the small minded attitudes that exist in Small Heath and Sandwell.