Philippe Senderos

[Chris Smith]

I guess new manager means everyone in the squad starts with the same chance. He has no particular loyalty to anyone as they are not his signings. If Senderos, and it is a big if, impresses then he could figure again and the same goes for a few others.

He also gets some leeway from fans for a while, well some of us at least, while he learns about his players. In our current predicament that will not last long of course.

[N'ZMAV]

I assume Senderos hasn't been registered the Premier League games? so he can't play at the moment?

[brian green]

I think Remi Garde will get a lot more patience from the fans than has been shown to his predecessors because I believe, like Houllier you will be able to see what he is trying to do. I should also add that I think McLeish and Lambert were given every chance to succeed. Sherwood had to go precipitously because he and the team were in free fall. You can't make statements like "we can't play all our games away from home" and expect the fans not to be angry.

[Villa in Denmark]

I think Remi Garde will get a lot more patience from the fans than has been shown to his predecessors because I believe, like Houllier you will be able to see what he is trying to do. I should also add that I think McLeish and Lambert were given every chance to succeed. Sherwood had to go precipitously because he and the team were in free fall. You can't make statements like "we can't play all our games away from home" and expect the fans not to be angry.

Completely agree Brian.

I must have missed that statement from him. That's possibly the worst of the lot, and God knows there's plenty of competition.

[Dave]

I think Remi Garde will get a lot more patience from the fans than has been shown to his predecessors because I believe, like Houllier you will be able to see what he is trying to do. I should also add that I think McLeish and Lambert were given every chance to succeed. Sherwood had to go precipitously because he and the team were in free fall. You can't make statements like "we can't play all our games away from home" and expect the fans not to be angry.

I hope so - but one point I'd slightly disagree with is that Lambert had bucket loads of patience from the fans. He still had the bulk of the fans pretty much on his side all the way until Autumn of his final season.

With the benefit of hindsight (for me at least, as there were plenty of people at the time saying that he should go) he probably had too much patience.

[Brend'Watkins]

I agree with that.  He got loads of time from the fans as we thought we could see a vision of how he wanted us to play.  Then he changed it and that vision quickly became the mirage it always was.

[Chris Smith]

I think Remi Garde will get a lot more patience from the fans than has been shown to his predecessors because I believe, like Houllier you will be able to see what he is trying to do. I should also add that I think McLeish and Lambert were given every chance to succeed. Sherwood had to go precipitously because he and the team were in free fall. You can't make statements like "we can't play all our games away from home" and expect the fans not to be angry.

He will get leeway from those who agree with the appointment. Those who thought a different approach was needed, i.e. tried and tested in this league, might not be so patient and if experience is anything to go by will not be slow in expressing their disapproval should he have a bad start, as our PL survival is at stake.

Of course, it will not come to that as all our Christmases will have come at once as we glide serenely up the league and the last few years becomes nothing but a bad dream.

[joe_c]

I think part of the reason Lambert was afforded as much time by the fans and the club was simply that the previous two managers had lasted less than a year and it was nice to have the luxury of giving a manager time without being ambushed by illness or uselessness. I think if he'd come in after a manager with a few more years clocked up, it may have been a less forgiving atmosphere.

[Steve67]

I think part of the reason Lambert was afforded as much time by the fans and the club was simply that the previous two managers had lasted less than a year and it was nice to have the luxury of giving a manager time without being ambushed by illness or uselessness. I think if he'd come in after a manager with a few more years clocked up, it may have been a less forgiving atmosphere.

I also think he was given more leeway because he had more youngsters in the side and Villa fans are generally much more patient with young players.

[dave.woodhall]

I think part of the reason Lambert was afforded as much time by the fans and the club was simply that the previous two managers had lasted less than a year and it was nice to have the luxury of giving a manager time without being ambushed by illness or uselessness. I think if he'd come in after a manager with a few more years clocked up, it may have been a less forgiving atmosphere.

I also think he was given more leeway because he had more youngsters in the side and Villa fans are generally much more patient with young players.

And also because every so often he'd pull out a result or two, plus there was a harking back to the end of his first season and how promising it seemed.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think Remi Garde will get a lot more patience from the fans than has been shown to his predecessors because I believe, like Houllier you will be able to see what he is trying to do. I should also add that I think McLeish and Lambert were given every chance to succeed. Sherwood had to go precipitously because he and the team were in free fall. You can't make statements like "we can't play all our games away from home" and expect the fans not to be angry.

I hope so - but one point I'd slightly disagree with is that Lambert had bucket loads of patience from the fans. He still had the bulk of the fans pretty much on his side all the way until Autumn of his final season.

With the benefit of hindsight (for me at least, as there were plenty of people at the time saying that he should go) he probably had too much patience.

I honestly thought the amount of support and patience Lambert had was extraordinary. After that first season, most fans at most clubs would have been on his back, demanding P45s. The support he had from us was pretty much unanimous.

I struggle to think of a club whose fans have given their manager more patience than Lambert got from us. I thought he was very, very lucky to carry the support as long as he did.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think part of the reason Lambert was afforded as much time by the fans and the club was simply that the previous two managers had lasted less than a year and it was nice to have the luxury of giving a manager time without being ambushed by illness or uselessness. I think if he'd come in after a manager with a few more years clocked up, it may have been a less forgiving atmosphere.

I also think he was given more leeway because he had more youngsters in the side and Villa fans are generally much more patient with young players.

And also because every so often he'd pull out a result or two, plus there was a harking back to the end of his first season and how promising it seemed.

*pull out really impressive result from nowhere*
*lose*
*lose*
*unconvincing draw*
*stoic draw*
*lose*
*lose*
*last minute equaliser*
*lose*
*lose*

*repeat*

[OCD]

What I found frustrating with Lambert was that he never looked to improve on the Weimann-Benteke-Gabby combination. It worked great for the last part of his first season but then should have been the time to make Weimann and Gabby into squad players and improve the quality of players playing in those positions alongside Benteke.

[eamonn]

Did Garde manage Cissokho at Lyon? Thought I read that somewhere. Of all the players to be loyal to/manager's pet, here's hoping it's not him.

[Dave]

Did Garde manage Cissokho at Lyon? Thought I read that somewhere. Of all the players to be loyal to/manager's pet, here's hoping it's not him.

There for his first year I think. I'd be surprised and disappointed to see him in ahead of Amavi. But I'd be delighted (and not surprised) it he were in ahead of Richardson.