Philippe Senderos

[martin o`who??]

I`ll give anybody a fair crack of the whip (Even Mcleish when he defected), but i think this is the level of signing we can expect from now on.

[Monty]

I don't think Senderos will be that bad. He's better than Baker.

[N'ZMAV]

You are better than Baker, Monty.

[Monty]

And yet Lambert keeps selecting him over me. Bloody favouritism.

[Malandro]

You are better than Baker, Monty.

Harry Redknapp's dog's mother is better than Baker

[john e]

I do hope Nathan doesn't read this forum

It won't do much for his self esteem

[pauliewalnuts]

It would have been interesting had we had these forums around 1980.

Could you imagine the uproar at:
Replacing Andy Gray with a journey man centre forward.
Replacing John Gidman with a winger from Chelsea and turning him into a full back
Ken McNaughts first season.
Des Bremner? From Hibernian?

The Andy Gray one is funny, I suppose the equivalent now would be selling Benteke and replacing him with say Ricky Lambert.

The Andy Gray one is funny because every time we make a signing which divides opinion like this, you can guarantee someone will come out and say "yeah, i remember when we signed Peter Withe, a journeyman centre forward, AND LOOK HOW THAT TURNED OUT!" I believe the last time we heard that line was when Grant Holt came.

Yes, sometimes signings turn out better than expected, but more often than not, poor players remain poor players. The fact people point at an example from 35 years ago says it all, really.

[pauliewalnuts]

I do hope Nathan doesn't read this forum

It won't do much for his self esteem

I've often wondered if players read this and other places.

I am pretty sure if i was a player, I wouldn't be able to resist.

[Eigentor]

It's difficult to think of a more unexcting signing, but as said before he's probably lower mid-table Premiership quality and better than Baker and Clark. Possibly better than Hangeland, whose form has dipped dramatically the last few months, although I'm not sure.

Vlaar and Senderos sounds like a reasonable defensive pairing, but both are prone to injuries, so I'm not sure if it is as solid as one woud wish.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

I don't agree with automatically writing players off, but I have to say, I also don't agree with them "don't pre-judge them, just judge them on what they do for us, forget their history" line.

Are we supposed to totally ignore their careers so far in judging / evaluating players? Why?

It's just as well the people buying them for us don't do that.

Agree with this post. It's partly why I don't rate Kozak and why I was strongly against the idea of Grant Holt joining us.

[caster troy]

At least we know Senderos is shit so there is no expectation. With the likes of El Ahmedi and Tonev I hoped they would turn out to be decent but ended up disappointed.

I think we can forget about signing anyone good until we get taken over.

[Clark W Griswold]

I don't agree with automatically writing players off, but I have to say, I also don't agree with them "don't pre-judge them, just judge them on what they do for us, forget their history" line.

Are we supposed to totally ignore their careers so far in judging / evaluating players? Why?

It's just as well the people buying them for us don't do that.

Agree with this post. It's partly why I don't rate Kozak and why I was strongly against the idea of Grant Holt joining us.

I even gave Grant Holt the benefit of the doubt before he'd played but i must admit it didn't take me too long to write him off. Probably 2 subs appearances of his onfield buffoonery was enough for me to make my mind up. Maybe i'm guily of dismissing players too early into their career but NZogbia's total lack of interest early on and Tonev's excessive shitness had me writing those off after a couple of games also. But at least they'd kicked a ball for us !! :-)

[Monty]

Weirdly I thought Holt did quite well for us at first. Held the ball and kept possession better than most of the other players.

[john e]

I do hope Nathan doesn't read this forum

It won't do much for his self esteem

I've often wondered if players read this and other places.

I am pretty sure if i was a player, I wouldn't be able to resist.

I'm also pretty sure most if not all of them have a look

[darren woolley]

Welcome and good luck Philippe.