Philippe Senderos

[He wears a magic hat]

The world is full of players that flatter to deceive but there are equally players where expectation is low but there performances are well in excess of expectation.  Given senderos' pedigree I'm expecting him to be better than what we have. And given our position as a football club I believe he's about as good as we can expect.

Maybe just maybe he could be judge by his performances kn the pitch before ge is condemned as a load of fertiliser

[eamonn]

How the fuck are Switzerland given cushy draws and seeded all the time when 90% of their players, including our Pip, are gubbins?

[He wears a magic hat]

How do you get over 50 caps by being shit

There is load of shit players that have won caps,  carlton palmer geoff thomas etc but they are soon fucked off after just a handful of appearances but 50 caos you must have something about you

[olaftab]

It's all very well saying don't pre-judge but we are talking about a player who was not needed by a team that got relegated and conceded more than any other team as he was loaned out in January.

[ciggiesnbeer]

To be fair though, Fulham were in 16th start of January, they really tailspun after they had given him his vacation.

[claret and blue blood]

He will be an upgrade on Clark and Baker ,Lambert's first signing a centre back says it all really.

[aj2k77]

I'd be way more concerned if Lambert didn't sign another Centre back, at least we know that he knows he was talking shit throughout the season when talking up Baker and Clark.

[Clark W Griswold]

I don't agree with automatically writing players off, but I have to say, I also don't agree with them "don't pre-judge them, just judge them on what they do for us, forget their history" line.

Are we supposed to totally ignore their careers so far in judging / evaluating players? Why?

It's just as well the people buying them for us don't do that.

Why? Because, lets face it, we have no say so in who we buy. Thats up to the management team. It's all very well a few of us huffing and puffing when players are first mentioned but once they're here they should get our full support, and as i said before we could be pleasantly suprised by a player we think might not be up to it.

I'm not saying the management team should ignore players history, but that's a total different kettle of fish to us supporters. If the management think they're up to it we have to accept it.

[Small Rodent]

If my roof is leaking and I can't afford to fix it, I'll at least buy a bucket.

And something about trawlers and seagulls.

[Clark W Griswold]

If my roof is leaking and I can't afford to fix it, I'll at least buy a bucket.

And something about trawlers and seagulls.

Or get a free bucket that was once a good bucket but might be developing a few minor cracks. :-)

[john e]

If my roof is leaking and I can't afford to fix it, I'll at least buy a bucket.

And something about trawlers and seagulls.

I think were dealing with dear Liza for our buckets

[nigel]

It would have been interesting had we had these forums around 1980.

Could you imagine the uproar at:
Replacing Andy Gray with a journey man centre forward.
Replacing John Gidman with a winger from Chelsea and turning him into a full back
Ken McNaughts first season.
Des Bremner? From Hibernian?

[LeeB]

It would have been interesting had we had these forums around 1980.

Could you imagine the uproar at:
Replacing Andy Gray with a journey man centre forward.
Replacing John Gidman with a winger from Chelsea and turning him into a full back
Ken McNaughts first season.
Des Bremner? From Hibernian?

The Andy Gray one is funny, I suppose the equivalent now would be selling Benteke and replacing him with say Ricky Lambert.

[Brian Taylor]

As long as he is not another 'Butcher's dog'!

[PeterWithesShin]

How do you get over 50 caps by being shit

There is load of shit players that have won caps,  carlton palmer geoff thomas etc but they are soon fucked off after just a handful of appearances but 50 caos you must have something about you

Heskey had over 60 caps for a country with better quality players than Switzerland, didn't stop people calling him shit. Hutton has 40 and ditto.
Switzerland aren't much cop, they had a peachy draw to qualify for the world cup. And 2-0 was still their best win, in a group that included Albania and Cyprus. 6th best team in the world indeed.