Roy Keane - new assistant manager (CONFIRMED)

[Monty]

Exactly this. There's a difference between a no-nonsense tough guy, whom you can love because he's your tough guy, and an out-and-out thug who uses violence spitefully and vengefully for no reason other than his own narcissistic lunacy.

[hilts_coolerking]

Exactly this. There's a difference between a no-nonsense tough guy, whom you can love because he's your tough guy, and an out-and-out thug who uses violence spitefully and vengefully for no reason other than his own narcissistic lunacy.

I don't disagree with you but it's worth pointing out that the attack on Haaland had some context to it, a context which didn't reflect particularly well on Haaland either.  That's not to excuse what Keane did in retaliation of course.

[AV82EC]

Exactly this. There's a difference between a no-nonsense tough guy, whom you can love because he's your tough guy, and an out-and-out thug who uses violence spitefully and vengefully for no reason other than his own narcissistic lunacy.

I don't disagree with you but it's worth pointing out that the attack on Haaland had some context to it, a context which didn't reflect particularly well on Haaland either.  That's not to excuse what Keane did in retaliation of course.

Exactly when Keane did his cruciate in a game against Leeds whilst lying on the floor Haaland shouted something in his ear from recollection.

[hilts_coolerking]

Exactly when Keane did his cruciate in a game against Leeds whilst lying on the floor Haaland shouted something in his ear from recollection.

Yep he reckoned Keane was feigning the injury.

[Damo70]

I read Roy Keane's autobiography a while back and I seem to recall he wrote about two specific revenge missions. One against a player who accused him of cheating/acting when he was actually badly hurt and one against an opponent who had gloated about him being injured. I can't remember the second player and I can't remember which of the two incidents concerned Haaland, but it was one or the other.

[Monty]

He thought Keane was feigning injury and was wrong about that, badly wrong, and Keane would be right to feel aggrieved about that. However, nurturing a grudge and a desire for vengeance for so many years, and exacting it with such savagery, over something someone said to you? And still being proud of it a decade and a half later? It's not just that a good man wouldn't do this - it's that a sane man wouldn't.

[adrenachrome]

He thought Keane was feigning injury and was wrong about that, badly wrong, and Keane would be right to feel aggrieved about that. However, nurturing a grudge and a desire for vengeance for so many years, and exacting it with such savagery, over something someone said to you? And still being proud of it a decade and a half later? It's not just that a good man wouldn't do this - it's that a sane man wouldn't.

Reminds me of Jack Charlton's black book.

[Villa in Denmark]

Exactly this. There's a difference between a no-nonsense tough guy, whom you can love because he's your tough guy, and an out-and-out thug who uses violence spitefully and vengefully for no reason other than his own narcissistic lunacy.

I don't disagree with you but it's worth pointing out that the attack on Haaland had some context to it, a context which didn't reflect particularly well on Haaland either.  That's not to excuse what Keane did in retaliation of course.

Exactly when Keane did his cruciate in a game against Leeds whilst lying on the floor Haaland shouted something in his ear from recollection.

And whatever the background that's no excuse or justifiable provocation for deliberately setting out to injure someone.

If he'd reacted at the point of the verbals by chinning Haaland I'd still have thought he was a twat, but been somewhat understanding.
And yes I know he'd done his cruciate and couldn't get up to chin Haaland.

How long afterwards  did he get his totally disproporionate "revenge"?

All smacks of the overgrown playground culture that revolves around demanded respect that ends with those poetic words "are you dissin' me"

[silhillvilla]

It will end in tears. But it should be entertaining.

[Villa in Denmark]

It will end in tears. But it should be entertaining.

The kind of shit I fear comes with this deal is only entertaining when happening at the sty or in Greater Smethwick

[mr underhill]

i think you are right. It won't be a baked one type of shit, it will end with the wild shites ; the type you get after a bad lemonade at The Feathers.

[DeKuip]

Two or three decent performances early on and the Holte End will be chanting "Roy Keane's Claret & Blue army" and "Keano give us a wave".
It won't take much to get us playing better than we finished last season and Keane will get all the credit for that.
It's a no lose situation for him as it will be Lambert & Lerner getting the stick if things go badly.
But I've got a good feeling about the coming season and this time next year we'll be begging our new owners not to replace the highly popular dynamic duo with some fancy dan World Cup winning foreign super coaching team.

[mr underhill]

admire that hugely but I still get a feeling that marrying Roy and Lambert together is akin to successfully shitting through the eye of a needle.

[N'ZMAV]

It will end in tears. But it should be entertaining.

this 

[johnc]

https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com/second-captains-world-cup-0307-brazil-shrink-messi-move-roy-keane

It will end in tears. But it should be entertaining.

this 

The above oodcast sees it all ending in Keane as Lamberts successor. Last 10 mins or so. Quite a good podcast overall albeit a few days out of date