Roy Keane - new assistant manager (CONFIRMED)

[olaftab]

I just can't see this ending well. Something will kick off at some stage early on in the season.

It pains me to say it but I agree with you.

[Small Rodent]

If I was a young player and Roy Keane offered me some advice, I'd shut up and listen.

Absolutely. He's been there and done it.

[Des Little]

I just can't see this ending well. Something will kick off at some stage early on in the season.

It pains me to say it but I agree with you.

I just can't see Lambert being here at the kick off, I just can't. These two just cannot work together, and something tells me that Keane won't come to us to put up with our recent apathetic approach. He's coming to manage us.

[claret and blue blood]

Maybe something is going on behind the scenes as the first thought I had when Keane's name was mentioned was there is no way they can work together.

[andrew08]

It must be hard to motivate players at our level or at our club specifically these days. They are secure in their contracts so get paid however they play. The examples of Ireland, Hutton etc all 'bombed' out yet still getting paid loads isn't a good one for young players. What's the worst that Keane can do? Shout at them a bit loud?

I forget about the money side of things but remind myself occasionally: Nathan Delfounso, £40k a week for the last 4 years, £8 million,now secure for life yet contribution to AVFC .....Fxxx all.  Do you really think he would have cared if some fella yelled at him?

The 110% days have gone. We need better players, who earn more sadly, but the standards get raised, not because they try any harder, they're just better players. These days you get what you pay for. Chelsea and Citeh prove that.

[john e]

It must be hard to motivate players at our level or at our club specifically these days. They are secure in their contracts so get paid however they play. The examples of Ireland, Hutton etc all 'bombed' out yet still getting paid loads isn't a good one for young players. What's the worst that Keane can do? Shout at them a bit loud?

I forget about the money side of things but remind myself occasionally: Nathan Delfounso, £40k a week for the last 4 years, £8 million,now secure for life yet contribution to AVFC .....Fxxx all.  Do you really think he would have cared if some fella yelled at him?

The 110% days have gone. We need better players, who earn more sadly, but the standards get raised, not because they try any harder, they're just better players. These days you get what you pay for. Chelsea and Citeh prove that.

But we didn't get what we paid for in Ireland's Case, or Hutton for that matter

[Drummond]

Maybe Keane likes the idea of being a coach and not having to get involved with the management crap.

It's either a brilliant move or a terrible one and we certainly won't know for a while. However, you have to give respect to someone with the knowledge a drink experience he has. We've got to give him a chance.

[ozzjim]

I kind of admire the balls of Lambert in bringing in someone like Keane as number 2. Brave move in many ways.

[Brend'Watkins]

If I was a young player and Roy Keane offered me some advice, I'd shut up and listen.

Absolutely. He's been there and done it.

You'd listen out of fear and respect in equal measures.

[Monty]

What about when Diego Maradona tries to give you advice? Or Pele?

Far from the best players giving the best advice, sometimes the fact that it was so easy for them makes them among the worst coaches around. The frustration at players just not being able to do what they could often sets a barrier between them and the players. Of the real greats, only Beckenbauer and Cruyff also made good coaches.

[pauliewalnuts]

What about when Diego Maradona tries to give you advice? Or Pele?

Far from the best players giving the best advice, sometimes the fact that it was so easy for them makes them among the worst coaches around. The frustration at players just not being able to do what they could often sets a barrier between them and the players. Of the real greats, only Beckenbauer and Cruyff also made good coaches.

That's a very good point.

[PeterWithesShin]

Johnson and Welbeck really are rather wank.

*Wrong thread*

Sigh.

[kippaxvilla2]

Please tell me we never paid Delfoneouso 40k per week?  I am reeling.

[pauliewalnuts]

Please tell me we never paid Delfoneouso 40k per week?  I am reeling.

I find it hard to believe.

However, the bloke who used to sit next to me had a few connections with players, through his daughter, who by the sounds of it was a bit of a wannabe wag, and knew plenty of them.

I remember him telling me that Ciaran Clark had just signed a new contract - this was the Houllier season - and he was on 40k a week.

[kippaxvilla2]

Please tell me we never paid Delfoneouso 40k per week?  I am reeling.

I find it hard to believe.

However, the bloke who used to sit next to me had a few connections with players, through his daughter, who by the sounds of it was a bit of a wannabe wag, and knew plenty of them.

I remember him telling me that Ciaran Clark had just signed a new contract - this was the Houllier season - and he was on 40k a week.

I just cannot get to grips with either of these scenarios being true but somehow I believe it.

To put this into context when did Keane retire or rather leave manure?  I'm guessing he wouldn't have been on much more than that and in him we are talking about one of the greatest midfielders ever to wear their shirt!