Roy Keane - new assistant manager (CONFIRMED)

[mr woo]

We've lost 2 coaches, so surely there will be 2 coming in. Keane is your typical assistant manager, the number two that gets amongst the players - John Robertson type. We'd still need a top coach in if he came.

Yeah, this is a good point.

As it stands, the idea of going into the season under Lambert and Keane fills me with dread.

Adding a renowned coach and tactician however, might well be the final piece of a functional and complimentary management team. Maybe?

[pauliewalnuts]

Didn't someone say a while back that Robertson's main contribution to training sessions was to stand on the touchline, smoking, occasionally shouting "SKIN HIM!" at a winger?

[Ads]

Bibs and Cones was his nickname wasn't it?

[pauliewalnuts]

Bibs and Cones was his nickname wasn't it?

Think those were the names given to him and Walford, not sure which was which.

[dave shelley]

On the point of Keane being a suggested bully.  Didn't  he spend the majority of his playing career being managed by two of the biggest bullies in the game?  Some of it may just have rubbed off, who knows?

[silhillvilla]

Perhaps we could get Steve Harrison and his party tricks back in the fold.

[supertom]

On the point of Keane being a suggested bully.  Didn't  he spend the majority of his playing career being managed by two of the biggest bullies in the game?  Some of it may just have rubbed off, who knows?

It's a whole different ball game compared to the Cloughie era. Even Fergie had mellowed in the post Keano years at Utd too.
Which in a way is a shame. Most of our squad need a fucking good dose of the Hair dryer and a few stern kicks up the backside it must be said.

[john e]

On the point of Keane being a suggested bully.  Didn't  he spend the majority of his playing career being managed by two of the biggest bullies in the game?  Some of it may just have rubbed off, who knows?

If a bit of coughie and fergie has rubbed of on him I hope it rubs back on us

[peter w]

Some top notch backtracking there by monty,

I wondered how he was going to come back from that one

Monty is a high quality poster, I'm surprised he's let that one out. Schoolboy error that.

He'll go again.

[dave shelley]

A bully is a bully whichever way you dress it up.  If the football knowledge of both Clough and Ferguson has been taken on board by Keane then I'm all for it but, if belittling players and alienating them for no apparent reason then, no thanks. 

As for the hair dryer treatment, I've always been of the opinion that should anyone do that to me, the result would be the loss of at least a couple of teeth, I wouldn't care who they were. 

I am not a violent person, seriously.  No one should have to put up with that kind of behavior.

[Legion]

monty is ace.

[brontebilly]

A couple of things that have crossed my mind. We are all judging Keane on his ability as an Assistant Manager based on his managerial record. There's plenty of evidence in the game to suggest that a good assistant doesn't always become a good manager, or that a bad manager doesn't automatically translate to that person being a bad assistant or coach. What we don't know with Keane is under what terms (contract/definition of duties) he would be joining the club, and if indeed it is as assistant manager, then how good he will be in that capacity? Irrespective of what we know of him as a manager, he might be perfectly fine in a more limited capacity as an assistant.

The other thing is to call him a bully as a coach or manager isn't accurate. To the best of my knowledge that isn't something that he has been accused of as a coach or manager. He's been accused of intimidating or confrontational but that's who was as a player, and who he is as a person. It's very different though to define someone as a bully, which is something Karsa and Culverhouse got fired for. You can be aggressive, demanding and intimidating without crossing the line into being a bully.

My concern with Keane is his ability as a coach, his tactics, methods etc but in reality my judgement is also clouded by what he has done as a manager. He might be a perfectly good Assistant Manager, we just don't know.

Finally as for his playing ability, he was superb, and a player and leader any team in the world would have wanted while at his peak.

Were there not accusations of some bullying at Blunderland?

Dressing room problems at Sunderland and Ipswich were heavily publicised. Conjecture of course, but it is fairly clear that Keane won't hold back for anyone and demands levels which were probably beyond the squads at his disposal. Certainly that would be the case here.

The ultimate job of a manager is to get the best out of the resources at his disposal. Roy Keane has been an utter failure in this regard, starting fights with numerous players, buying utter tripe and then walking out of his club before a trip to Old Trafford.

There was a time particularly in the Ireland where the media hung on his every word. Government, other sports, the economy - Roy the oracle would give his rent a quote line. But now his non existent analysis on ITV has probably shown up his lack of footballing knowledge particularly in comparison to Neville and Carragher. The hope that Keane was a great midfielder so he will improve our midfielders unfortunately hasnt worked for him so far.

The favourite Roy Keane managerial magic moments - buying Anton Ferdinand for 8m, having a fight with Steve Coppell at Reading after he sold him the useless Greg Halford and bombing out Jordan Rhodes at Ipswich while his side couldnt buy a goal.

[tomd2103]

We've lost 2 coaches, so surely there will be 2 coming in. Keane is your typical assistant manager, the number two that gets amongst the players - John Robertson type. We'd still need a top coach in if he came.

Yeah, this is a good point.

As it stands, the idea of going into the season under Lambert and Keane fills me with dread.

Adding a renowned coach and tactician however, might well be the final piece of a functional and complimentary management team. Maybe?

Wasn't it rumoured that Scott Marshall would be stepping up to the role of assistant?

[KevinGage]

Some earlier poster mentioned that his contacts might help us in the transfer market. 

For the love of McGrath, I hope he would have absolutely no input into that side of things at all. 

He spunked a phenomenal amount of money at Slumberland on some absolute tat. 

[Steve67]

Some earlier poster mentioned that his contacts might help us in the transfer market. 

For the love of McGrath, I hope he would have absolutely no input into that side of things at all. 

He spunked a phenomenal amount of money at Slumberland on some absolute tat. 

Him and Lambert will be a good match then!!