Roy Keane - new assistant manager (CONFIRMED)

[SheffieldVillain]

It would appear to amount to replacing one in-yer-face bully with another. 

A no nonsense approach to the game does not make you a bully.  There's a difference.  I can imagine if you get on the wrong side of Keane he might be a bit intimidating but a bully? No, no evidence of that.

Deliberately seriously injuring another player as retaliation for some sneering comments. That's not no-nonsense, just thuggery.

"I'd waited long enough. I fucking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries.
Despite widespread condemnation, he later maintained in his autobiography that he had no regrets about the incident: "My attitude was, fuck him. What goes around comes around. He got his just rewards. He fucked me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye.

And then onto his management career
Sunderland players celebrate after Roy Keane resigns.

"He ruled by fear," said one source close to the squad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/3551680/Sunderland-players-celebrate-after-Roy-Keane-resigns-Football.html

If he'd had some kind of massive coaching success I could see some small piece of logic in this. But he hasn't. He's been rubbish at both his clubs and fallen out with players and directors alike.

[Chico Hamilton III]

They are probably trying to piss lambert off so much he will walk

I thought Keane was a friend of his.

I didn't realise that.

“I get on well with Roy, an absolute top bloke, a brilliant footballer. You never like to see anybody lose their job, but I am sure he will bounce back.”

Lambert in 2011, after Ipswich sacked Keane

[Chico Hamilton III]

"I remember it myself as a youngster at Forest," he added. "Stuart Pearce is a great example of that. Come to United there was Robbo (Bryan Robson) and Brucie (Steve Bruce), but the game is changing. Most players want an arm around them these days. That has crept into the game. Robbo would fight you, then go for a drink with you. I'm kind of from that old school as well."

Keane in 2005

[supertom]

A Roy Keane training session at this club full of inept players will probably play out like the opening half of Full Metal Jacket. Andy Weimann for the lack of Grant Holt, will be Private Pyle.

[German James]

He comes across as a divisive bully and his post-playing career has been pants, so I wouldn't want him.

[baddowvillans]

I'm not surprised by the heavy negative tone of the majority of comments on here but equally the appointment doesn't surprise me either. I have long since stopped deluding myself that we are much more attractive for managers, coaches and players than the likes of Stoke, Southampton etc. This is Aston Villa Lerner style so we had better just get used to it and hope that it works out.

Having said that I still have no intention of renewing my season tickets until there is real change

[Clampy]

It would appear to amount to replacing one in-yer-face bully with another. 

A no nonsense approach to the game does not make you a bully.  There's a difference.  I can imagine if you get on the wrong side of Keane he might be a bit intimidating but a bully? No, no evidence of that.

Deliberately seriously injuring another player as retaliation for some sneering comments. That's not no-nonsense, just thuggery.

"I'd waited long enough. I fucking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries.
Despite widespread condemnation, he later maintained in his autobiography that he had no regrets about the incident: "My attitude was, fuck him. What goes around comes around. He got his just rewards. He fucked me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye.

And then onto his management career
Sunderland players celebrate after Roy Keane resigns.

"He ruled by fear," said one source close to the squad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/3551680/Sunderland-players-celebrate-after-Roy-Keane-resigns-Football.html

If he'd had some kind of massive coaching success I could see some small piece of logic in this. But he hasn't. He's been rubbish at both his clubs and fallen out with players and directors alike.

You can't say he was rubbish at Sunderland, he got them promoted.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm not surprised by the heavy negative tone of the majority of comments on here but equally the appointment doesn't surprise me either. I have long since stopped deluding myself that we are much more attractive for managers, coaches and players than the likes of Stoke, Southampton etc

I just said something similar on the takeover thread, but if you think about it, Keane is not going to be a man with few career options, so although I think you're right in that we are not an attractive option these days, he isn't anything like a "had no other offers" type.

[rob_bridge]

A Roy Keane training session at this club full of inept players will probably play out like the opening half of Full Metal Jacket. Andy Weimann for the lack of Grant Holt, will be Private Pyle.

That is a very amusing and slighlty disconcerting picture you paint.

[pauliewalnuts]

It would appear to amount to replacing one in-yer-face bully with another. 

A no nonsense approach to the game does not make you a bully.  There's a difference.  I can imagine if you get on the wrong side of Keane he might be a bit intimidating but a bully? No, no evidence of that.

Deliberately seriously injuring another player as retaliation for some sneering comments. That's not no-nonsense, just thuggery.

"I'd waited long enough. I fucking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries.
Despite widespread condemnation, he later maintained in his autobiography that he had no regrets about the incident: "My attitude was, fuck him. What goes around comes around. He got his just rewards. He fucked me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye.

And then onto his management career
Sunderland players celebrate after Roy Keane resigns.

"He ruled by fear," said one source close to the squad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/3551680/Sunderland-players-celebrate-after-Roy-Keane-resigns-Football.html

If he'd had some kind of massive coaching success I could see some small piece of logic in this. But he hasn't. He's been rubbish at both his clubs and fallen out with players and directors alike.

You can't say he was rubbish at Sunderland, he got them promoted.

That's not really a measure of being able to do it at the top level, though.

McLeish got Small Heath promoted.

[Smirker]

So if we go down, he might get us back up. Sign him up.

[dave shelley]

The Irish Times slant on things, nothing too revealing.

irish times

hope the link works.

[Clampy]

It would appear to amount to replacing one in-yer-face bully with another. 

A no nonsense approach to the game does not make you a bully.  There's a difference.  I can imagine if you get on the wrong side of Keane he might be a bit intimidating but a bully? No, no evidence of that.

Deliberately seriously injuring another player as retaliation for some sneering comments. That's not no-nonsense, just thuggery.

"I'd waited long enough. I fucking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries.
Despite widespread condemnation, he later maintained in his autobiography that he had no regrets about the incident: "My attitude was, fuck him. What goes around comes around. He got his just rewards. He fucked me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye.

And then onto his management career
Sunderland players celebrate after Roy Keane resigns.

"He ruled by fear," said one source close to the squad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/3551680/Sunderland-players-celebrate-after-Roy-Keane-resigns-Football.html

If he'd had some kind of massive coaching success I could see some small piece of logic in this. But he hasn't. He's been rubbish at both his clubs and fallen out with players and directors alike.

You can't say he was rubbish at Sunderland, he got them promoted.

That's not really a measure of being able to do it at the top level, though.

McLeish got Small Heath promoted.

True but that wasn't the point I was responding to. Sheffield Villain said that he'd been rubbish at both club's that he's managed and he hasn't.

[eamonn]

The Irish Times slant on things, nothing too revealing.

irish times

hope the link works.

And Emmet Malone gets in two digs about Birmingham/Brummies, the twat.

[Brend'Watkins]

It would appear to amount to replacing one in-yer-face bully with another. 

A no nonsense approach to the game does not make you a bully.  There's a difference.  I can imagine if you get on the wrong side of Keane he might be a bit intimidating but a bully? No, no evidence of that.

Deliberately seriously injuring another player as retaliation for some sneering comments. That's not no-nonsense, just thuggery.

"I'd waited long enough. I fucking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries.
Despite widespread condemnation, he later maintained in his autobiography that he had no regrets about the incident: "My attitude was, fuck him. What goes around comes around. He got his just rewards. He fucked me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye.

I'm not doubting that Keane has been guilty of malicious thuggery on the field.  That isn't bullying though is it?  Has there been any evidence of bullying in any of his managerial roles since he stopped playing?