Albrighton Going to Leicester

[brian green]

That was a cheap shot Chris comparing me and other older fans with comedy Monty Python characters.  I and other long standing supporters have earned the right to make demands upon the club.   I have no problem with other fans wanting to present Lambert in a favourable light.   What I do have a very big problem with is the conviction that I have that the acceptance of Lambert has come about from the insidious peddling of the heresy that the diminution of the fans expectations is a positive and praiseworthy accomplishment.   It is neither, it is negative and shameful.   As I have said several times of late, in the troughs of relegation and despair we experienced in the past we always believed we would rise again and the club encouraged us to believe it.   We did rise again.   This time we are not encouraged to believe we will rise again we are told that we must hope for us not to be quite as bad as we were.   That way the club does not have to spend very much, a manager who does not deliver anything much can be considered competent and the fans once brainwashed pay to come to the games regardless of the results.   It is what a bookmaker would call a round book.   Win, win, win.
We have had to swallow some bitter pills over the years but none as big and as bitter as this present one they are trying to force through our clenched teeth that Villa is a mediocre club with mediocre expectations.   I shall not stop going to games at Christmas if Lambert is still there because of Lambert, I have seen plenty of crap managers of Aston Villa, I shall stop going because it will mean that the lies about what we are and what we can dream of are still being peddled as truth.

[claret and blue blood]

I know exactly what Brian means by the club peddling a need for us to accept survival as somehow being an achievement,indeed Lambert's outrageous statement that it was his greatest achievement is an example of this.It is a really bitter pill to look at other clubs we would have literally looked down on as being better run and stronger than we are.I did renew today,I was in two minds but my love of the team won ,however I view the new season with great trepidation and we can only hope we are sold quickly and to a buyer who can turn this negative culture around.

[ChicagoLion]

Pretty disappointed by the Club letting Albrighton go. We've got no one who offers what he does.

Same here, he was our most threatening player in the few games he played. I think this is a sad day for Villa.
We still have Tonev though.

[Toronto Villa]

Pretty disappointed by the Club letting Albrighton go. We've got no one who offers what he does.

Same here, he was our most threatening player in the few games he played. I think this is a sad day for Villa.
We still have Tonev though.

4 months nobody would have batted an eyelid if a reserve player was allowed to leave on a free. Sad day. Come on, really? He played well in a team that was going fast downhill, but lets not get carried away and make him an offer well beyond what he is worth. Good luck to him at Leicester if they are willing to pay that much, and well done to him for getting it.

[ChicagoLion]

Pretty disappointed by the Club letting Albrighton go. We've got no one who offers what he does.

Same here, he was our most threatening player in the few games he played. I think this is a sad day for Villa.
We still have Tonev though.

4 months nobody would have batted an eyelid if a reserve player was allowed to leave on a free. Sad day. Come on, really? He played well in a team that was going fast downhill, but lets not get carried away and make him an offer well beyond what he is worth. Good luck to him at Leicester if they are willing to pay that much, and well done to him for getting it.

I really like Villa fans playing for the club, so yeh when it does not work I do feel sad about it. He is a better player than most of the first 11 we have right now.

[dave shelley]

Very succinct Brian.

[Havencheese]

Pretty disappointed by the Club letting Albrighton go. We've got no one who offers what he does.

Same here, he was our most threatening player in the few games he played. I think this is a sad day for Villa.
We still have Tonev though.

4 months nobody would have batted an eyelid if a reserve player was allowed to leave on a free. Sad day. Come on, really? He played well in a team that was going fast downhill, but lets not get carried away and make him an offer well beyond what he is worth. Good luck to him at Leicester if they are willing to pay that much, and well done to him for getting it.

I really like Villa fans playing for the club, so yeh when it does not work I do feel sad about it. He is a better player than most of the first 11 we have right now.

Fair points, I'm sold on that argument but you've got to look at the facts. He was being offered silly money last time I checked, so ultimately I don't want us to bother with him and he can go for that. Let's hope they can get in someone who IS worth that kind of money.

[Ron Manager]

This thread is turning into the Monty Python 'Four Yorkshiremen' sketch, lighten up you miserable buggers. ;¬)

At Last The 1948 show if my memory serves me well. And it does!

[Chris Smith]

That was a cheap shot Chris comparing me and other older fans with comedy Monty Python characters.  I and other long standing supporters have earned the right to make demands upon the club.   I have no problem with other fans wanting to present Lambert in a favourable light.   What I do have a very big problem with is the conviction that I have that the acceptance of Lambert has come about from the insidious peddling of the heresy that the diminution of the fans expectations is a positive and praiseworthy accomplishment.   It is neither, it is negative and shameful.   As I have said several times of late, in the troughs of relegation and despair we experienced in the past we always believed we would rise again and the club encouraged us to believe it.   We did rise again.   This time we are not encouraged to believe we will rise again we are told that we must hope for us not to be quite as bad as we were.   That way the club does not have to spend very much, a manager who does not deliver anything much can be considered competent and the fans once brainwashed pay to come to the games regardless of the results.   It is what a bookmaker would call a round book.   Win, win, win.
We have had to swallow some bitter pills over the years but none as big and as bitter as this present one they are trying to force through our clenched teeth that Villa is a mediocre club with mediocre expectations.   I shall not stop going to games at Christmas if Lambert is still there because of Lambert, I have seen plenty of crap managers of Aston Villa, I shall stop going because it will mean that the lies about what we are and what we can dream of are still being peddled as truth.

Bloody hell, Brian, it was a mild piss take. You appear to have started taking it all a little bit too seriously. It's only a few disgruntled fans having a knockabout chat on a message board.

I only dip into these threads every now and then but all of this "worst ever " stuff just reads as hyperbole and posturing to help make a point. Particularly from people who have seen us relegated to division three and then fail to get back up at the first attempt.

[silhillvilla]

The immediate concern is vlaar and Delph . Are they really both going into the final year of their contracts ?

[saunders_heroes]

That was a cheap shot Chris comparing me and other older fans with comedy Monty Python characters.  I and other long standing supporters have earned the right to make demands upon the club.   I have no problem with other fans wanting to present Lambert in a favourable light.   What I do have a very big problem with is the conviction that I have that the acceptance of Lambert has come about from the insidious peddling of the heresy that the diminution of the fans expectations is a positive and praiseworthy accomplishment.   It is neither, it is negative and shameful.   As I have said several times of late, in the troughs of relegation and despair we experienced in the past we always believed we would rise again and the club encouraged us to believe it.   We did rise again.   This time we are not encouraged to believe we will rise again we are told that we must hope for us not to be quite as bad as we were.   That way the club does not have to spend very much, a manager who does not deliver anything much can be considered competent and the fans once brainwashed pay to come to the games regardless of the results.   It is what a bookmaker would call a round book.   Win, win, win.
We have had to swallow some bitter pills over the years but none as big and as bitter as this present one they are trying to force through our clenched teeth that Villa is a mediocre club with mediocre expectations.   I shall not stop going to games at Christmas if Lambert is still there because of Lambert, I have seen plenty of crap managers of Aston Villa, I shall stop going because it will mean that the lies about what we are and what we can dream of are still being peddled as truth.

You tell 'em, Brian. The club have desperately tried to lower our expectations these last few years and so many fans have fallen for it.
I can't stand the "oh it ain't that bad" brigade who pounce on posters like you for telling it the way it is. The club is in a mess from top to bottom and it's all self inflicted by the man at the top, but don't dare to criticise because you'll get the usual apologists who'll jump to the club's defence no matter what state the club is in and shout out that clichéd buzzword "hyperbole" in an attempt to discredit you.
Keep on posting, Brian.

[villa `cross the mersey]

I can see where Brian is coming from - I have been going to VP for over 50 years - during previous bad times there was this shared belief that we are the great Aston Villa and would "rise again"- we always hoped. Now we are peddled with the mantra that expectations must be lowered - what is the point -iIt appears that the ambitions of clubs like Hull, Swansea and QPR outstrip our own.
The current inertia over the sale and lack of apparent transfer activity isn’t helping either.
Lambert is a dead man walking but will eventually walk with potentially a sum of money in his back pocket. It may not be ideal for him but he will be rewarded for his loyalty to Lerner during this transition period.

We may all eventually be pleasantly surprised when the new owner surfaces however based on Lerner`s choice of appointments at Cleveland and VP i fear the worst.

Yes it was glum when we were relegated to the 3rd Division and disappointing when we did not get immediate promotion but the club and supporters were determined to get back to the top – from Division 3 Champions in 1971 to European Champions in 11 years will never be repeated – it was achieved with ambition, hope, a little luck and by appointing a great manager.

What saddens me is that the ambition has gone – not just to be top of the pile, not even top 10 – we now seem happy to just survive. Sorry but that smacks of Wigan.
 

[silhillvilla]

B Green is spot on. Club is an absolute shambles.

[DeKuip]

10 years, not 11 VCTM - we won Div 3 in 72.

[Chris Smith]

VCTM, in your eulogy to the olden days you overlooked relegation 5 years after being European champions. I'm not arguing that the club isn't in need of a great shot in the arm at the moment but I just find all this "worst ever" needless and over the top. We're a bit crap, just like we've been a bit crap before, but things will improve and then they'll get a bit crap again. It's the Villa way.

I've learnt to expect this type of stuff from certain quarters who never have a good word to say about the club, but when it comes from the more balanced and level headed posters I am surprised.