Albrighton Going to Leicester

[LeeS]

Serious question.   How bad does a bad manager have to be?   I cannot believe that there is a single proper Villa fan who can make a case for Lambert.   I can only put it down to a collective guilt complex which has grown from our detestation of DOL and TSM and our recognition of the premeditated spite which was in MON's walk out.   If Paul Lambert had not been preceded by Alex McLeish he would have been thrown out neck and crop months ago.   If Paul Lambert is still manager of Villa come Christmas of this year my 67 consecutive years on the Holte will be at an end.

You get the managers you believe you deserve. Each year our expectations fall a little lower. There is a general malaise around VP - Lawro called it the stench of relegation. If Lambert stays then I cant see how we can stay up.

[rob_bridge]

Serious question.   How bad does a bad manager have to be?   I cannot believe that there is a single proper Villa fan who can make a case for Lambert.   I can only put it down to a collective guilt complex which has grown from our detestation of DOL and TSM and our recognition of the premeditated spite which was in MON's walk out.   If Paul Lambert had not been preceded by Alex McLeish he would have been thrown out neck and crop months ago.   If Paul Lambert is still manager of Villa come Christmas of this year my 67 consecutive years on the Holte will be at an end.

You get the managers you believe you deserve. Each year our expectations fall a little lower. There is a general malaise around VP - Lawro called it the stench of relegation. If Lambert stays then I cant see how we can stay up.

Short of creating a Frankenstein Monster from a DNA based combination of Stein, Shankley, Ramsey, Busby and Cloughie, I fear we will be relegated.

[Ron Manager]

Shay has reminded other clubs he is up for a transfer or a loan move. But will they pay him what he is currently picking up?

I think you know the answer.

[rob_bridge]

Shay has reminded other clubs he is up for a transfer or a loan move. But will they pay him what he is currently picking up?

I think you know the answer.

I doubt they would pay him more than 30%.

[Rolta]

Serious question.   How bad does a bad manager have to be?   I cannot believe that there is a single proper Villa fan who can make a case for Lambert.   I can only put it down to a collective guilt complex which has grown from our detestation of DOL and TSM and our recognition of the premeditated spite which was in MON's walk out.   If Paul Lambert had not been preceded by Alex McLeish he would have been thrown out neck and crop months ago.   If Paul Lambert is still manager of Villa come Christmas of this year my 67 consecutive years on the Holte will be at an end.

If he got money and we actually had the opportunity to buy players to compete – and we begin to do better – you'll do an about turn on that last statement, I think. I am a proper Villa fan, by the way

[brian green]

I would not bank on it.  I did all the pain in the past as a younger stronger man.

[dave shelley]

I'm totally with Brian on this.  The difference between Brian and myself is that I left Birmingham almost 27 years ago.  If I had not, my attendance record would in all probability have been up there with his. 

There is only so much people are prepared to put up with.  People like Brian, myself, Ron Manager, E I Adio et al, have, over the years put up with more than our fair share of shit and believe me, the last three years in particular has been right up there with the worst.

[Mister E]

I'm totally with Brian on this.  The difference between Brian and myself is that I left Birmingham almost 27 years ago.  If I had not, my attendance record would in all probability have been up there with his. 

There is only so much people are prepared to put up with.  People like Brian, myself, Ron Manager, E I Adio et al, have, over the years put up with more than our fair share of shit and believe me, the last three years in particular has been right up there with the worst.

The difference between Brian and you, Dave, is 2 years.
And the difference between you, Dave, and me is 10 years.
And I'd like to say I've also put up with some right old sh*t* in my 50 years as a Villa fan ...





... and although I haven't renewed yet, I suspect I will.
That's the really sad bit.

[Chris Smith]

This thread is turning into the Monty Python 'Four Yorkshiremen' sketch, lighten up you miserable buggers. ;¬)

[dave shelley]

Mister E, you have my genuine respect and admiration as do all Villa fans who pay in advance knowing that there is a probability there is more of the same going to be served up.

I don't know if I would do it, but then again if I was still at home I more than likely would it's in the blood.  I had a mate with whom I went to Rotterdam with and when we got home he said he didn't care if he never watched the Villa again.  His reasons?  I've now seen them win everything in my lifetime there's nothing left.  I never understood that.  I don't believe he's ever been since.

[olaftab]

Serious question.   How bad does a bad manager have to be?   I cannot believe that there is a single proper Villa fan who can make a case for Lambert.   I can only put it down to a collective guilt complex which has grown from our detestation of DOL and TSM and our recognition of the premeditated spite which was in MON's walk out.   If Paul Lambert had not been preceded by Alex McLeish he would have been thrown out neck and crop months ago.   If Paul Lambert is still manager of Villa come Christmas of this year my 67 consecutive years on the Holte will be at an end.

Lambert is past past sackable point. Way past. However as he is still around I hope we are top of the League at Xmas so that you continue to grace the Holte End.

[olaftab]

If he got money and we actually had the opportunity to buy players to compete – and we begin to do better – you'll do an about turn on that last statement, I think. I am a proper Villa fan, by the way

You are working late today Rolta? Faulkner is a hard master I suppose!

[JUAN PABLO]

Signing players and picking the right tactics are only part of it. If you're going for bargain basement approach, then the really crucial quality in a manager is coaching and player development. Rodgers, for example, somehow managed to make Wayne fucking Routledge look like a good player. How many people think Lambert would have been able to do that?

and turned a laughing stock Henderson into  top player

[Dave]

Shay has reminded other clubs he is up for a transfer or a loan move. But will they pay him what he is currently picking up?

I think you know the answer.

They don't need to pick up all his wages.

Doncaster were paying 5% of Habib Beye's wages the other year.

[AV82EC]

Mister E, you have my genuine respect and admiration as do all Villa fans who pay in advance knowing that there is a probability there is more of the same going to be served up.

I don't know if I would do it, but then again if I was still at home I more than likely would it's in the blood.  I had a mate with whom I went to Rotterdam with and when we got home he said he didn't care if he never watched the Villa again.  His reasons?  I've now seen them win everything in my lifetime there's nothing left.  I never understood that.  I don't believe he's ever been since.

I'm saying this slightly tongue in cheek but lets be honest bar probably about 5 or 6 seasons he probably made the right choice. Then again he's missed out on a lot of beer swilling!