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Offline supertom

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #150 on: May 13, 2014, 11:19:32 PM »
He would walk into another job. Kept Norwich up, then us on a very tight wage budget and can happily point to his signings overall being way in the black if they were to be sold on. I would walk away if Lerner is not putting a penny in and it looks like dragging.

Walking away puts him in the shop window early in the summer but I cant see an EPL chairman being dumb enough to bring him in

Unable to manage his own staff, appalling coach, woeful communicator

Leeds or Glasgow Celtic - thats his level and that is where he will stay imo
I think he'd settle for trying to take a club up, rather than keep one from going down. And alternatively the Celtic opportunity would mean guaranteed trophies I suppose, so he might want to go back up there.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #151 on: May 14, 2014, 05:52:15 AM »
I'm even beginning to think Celtic would be too big for him in terms of expectation and fan pressure, despite it being a one team league.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #152 on: May 14, 2014, 06:41:26 AM »
Everton have been up for sale for 10 years.

And I can see another possible twist here, Lambert walking out and leaving us managerless and up for sale.

If I was him I wouldn't wait around to be honest.

They haven't done too badly in that time.

Not at all. They're very well run, recruited managers brilliantly and bought and sold well

That's the rub I think

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #153 on: May 14, 2014, 07:16:47 AM »
2 managers in that whole time helps. As has the emergence of Rooney, Barkley and Lescott with clever re-investment.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #154 on: May 14, 2014, 07:47:44 AM »
In response to the OP, I haven't got a clue. I wanted Lambert so my opinion obviously isn't worth much!

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #155 on: May 14, 2014, 08:27:37 AM »
2 managers in that whole time helps. As has the emergence of Rooney, Barkley and Lescott with clever re-investment.

and the fact that the Chairman,Bill Kenright, has no intention of selling whatsoever. As a man who runs a successful empire in the entertainment world he knows how to survive when times are not so good.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #156 on: May 14, 2014, 08:42:14 AM »
He won't go anywhere until the Culverhouse and Karsa business is resolved.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #157 on: May 14, 2014, 09:09:10 AM »
I think we need 5 or 6 decent signings say £6m each so £36m , but then it's the wages -
4 year deals on a PL modest 40k a week = that's about £50m in basic wages plus the other bits - bonuses , insurance , etc,
Add in compo for Lambert and Co. And a new manager that's your £100m

Yeah but we'd also have 4 years of income for that period from TV and other revenues so the funding of any wages will not necesarily be paid by the new owners.

According to the following link we recieved £73m last year for TV money and placement winnings.  Any idea what we managed last year or in the last set of accounts?

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/05/12/revealed-premier-league-prize-tv-money-what-did-your-club-receiv/

Offline enigma

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #158 on: May 14, 2014, 09:17:28 AM »
Yes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.
I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.

According to Wikipedia, he hasn't really lasted very long at any club except Brondby (his first job).

Getafe - 1 season, decent job, resigned
Spartak Moscow, 7 months, poor results - sacked
Mallorca - 1 season, decent job - resigned, bad relationship with DoF/board
Swansea - 1 season and a half, decent job at the start, sacked, rumoured fallout with board

Can't be a coincidence.

Yep, Laudrup only ever has one half decent season wherever he goes before it all goes tits up. Not sure why so many people on here would really want him. Is it just the League cup win?

No he also got them into mid-table which for Swansea is a decent finish.  And if I remember they weren't in a terrible position when he got the sack.  It does sound like a money issue to me, but I think if Swansea were going to progress than Laudrup had the right to ask for a bit more investment.  I think he could do a good job for Villa personally.
They were only two points above the relegation zone after a bad run of results so they were in a pretty bad position when he left. After everything I've heard about his lack of commitment and his track record at his other clubs, I hope we look elsewhere personally.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #159 on: May 14, 2014, 10:19:34 AM »
Swansea simply didn't have the depth of squad to cope with playing in the Europa league. Laudrup delivers a good brand of football. Pulis and Allardyce deliver results. With the quality of squad we have the latter two would be a better fit, but i'd bet that the majority of Villa fans would be dismayed at the prospect of their management. What is the expectancy these days? Villa are and always will be a great club, but it's been years since we have have had a team that matches that.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #160 on: May 14, 2014, 04:36:28 PM »
Swansea simply didn't have the depth of squad to cope with playing in the Europa league. Laudrup delivers a good brand of football. Pulis and Allardyce deliver results. With the quality of squad we have the latter two would be a better fit, but i'd bet that the majority of Villa fans would be dismayed at the prospect of their management. What is the expectancy these days? Villa are and always will be a great club, but it's been years since we have have had a team that matches that.
Yep, I'd be mortified with Pulis and even more so with Allardyce.

I said on the Villa-Swansea pre match thread this season that I'd jump at the chance to take Laudrup and shortly afterwards he got the boot.

I'd still love him as our manager, if we do have masses of money to spend in the summer then an international name as manager would certainly help attract international class players.  The brand of football he plays is also something we have seen all to scarcely down VP.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #161 on: May 14, 2014, 04:39:44 PM »
I'd take Laudrup for 12 months (or even 6)  over the pish we've had in recent years.

Two years of Lambert would almost qualify as stability these days. But if that's stability, you can shove it.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #162 on: May 14, 2014, 04:41:21 PM »
I don't get it with Laudrup. Swansea have been playing that way for years, what was it he bought to the job that makes him standout?

And doesn't the fact one the most sensible and successful boards in British football of recent times saw fit to fuck him off mid season tell you something might not be right?

Offline achilles

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #163 on: May 14, 2014, 04:49:45 PM »
He won't go anywhere until the Culverhouse and Karsa business is resolved.

Does anybody know when this matter will get resolved?

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #164 on: May 14, 2014, 04:52:03 PM »
He put a few noses out of joint with his behaviour last summer.

Essentially, he was angling after more funding and used his popularity with the fans (and other clubs owners) at the time to get it.

Relations were frosty with the Chief Exec since then, so -similar to BFR under Herbert- as soon as they hit a sticky patch, he was ditched. 

It's hard to escape the fact that he barely stays more than one year in a role.  Some of that has been of his doing, some of it has been down to the circumstances at the club at the time.   You could spin it and say the fact that he wanted to stay on at Swansea for at least a second year illustrates he is aware the perception of him as a mercenary, and wanted to do something about it. 

Again, I'd prefer a manager who could come in and guarantee 3/4 years of tenure minimum.  But you rarely get that these days. And if given a straight choice of a year of someone like Laudrup over two years of a McLeish/ Lambert-type appointment, it really wouldn't be a hard decision at all.

It would be nice to get back to something as simple as having the attacking intent to try to win football matches at home.

 


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