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Offline ozzjim

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #120 on: May 13, 2014, 12:31:08 AM »
I think any new owners for the first season will either keep Lambert and give him money to improve it, or install someone who knows the division.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #121 on: May 13, 2014, 12:44:27 AM »
I can't really remember Stan being singled out for that much abuse. He got stick for under-performing, although I also remember there were a fair amount of fans saying that he played an unsung role in the Villa midfield.

In any case, even if Stan was given dogs abuse (which he wasn't) that is completely exclusive to people not wanting him to die of cancer in his early 30's.

He got pelters at home to Newcastle one day where he was awful in the first half. Was taken off at half time and we hammered them in the second half afterwards. He had 2 very underwhelming seasons where he was carrying timber and struggling badly for stamina.

Got better when we played three in midfield next to Barry and whoever was the plus one at the time - Sidwell or Reo Coker. Later was very good next to Milner who was more mobile than Barry which helped Petrov more.

Lots of players have come back from very bad starts, Henderson is the prime example, even Delph at Villa. Remember how bad Delph was for a long time? Shows a lot of character but thats what a top professional should have in buckets.

He was playing right midfield in this game, with Mellberg behind him. It was getting embarrassing and both were taken off at half time (remember one move breaking down when Mellberg tried to do a backheel).

I have no idea who I would pick as manager, I could see new owners going for Moyes though I'm not convinced.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #122 on: May 13, 2014, 12:52:10 AM »
Yes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.
I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #123 on: May 13, 2014, 12:56:03 AM »
New owners will do their due diligence and realise quickly through conversation how things turned very sour against Lambert. I think they are going to come into this situation looking to galvanise the club. And even if on the surface it appears Lambert and Lerner are best mates, in business there is no such thing. He'll answer questions honestly if asked about the manager and I believe Lambert knows this too.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #124 on: May 13, 2014, 01:01:04 AM »
Yes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.
I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.

According to Wikipedia, he hasn't really lasted very long at any club except Brondby (his first job).

Getafe - 1 season, decent job, resigned
Spartak Moscow, 7 months, poor results - sacked
Mallorca - 1 season, decent job - resigned, bad relationship with DoF/board
Swansea - 1 season and a half, decent job at the start, sacked, rumoured fallout with board

Can't be a coincidence.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #125 on: May 13, 2014, 01:03:19 AM »
Purely conjecture but I reckon Laudrup thought he'd be onto to bigger things after that first season with Swansea and it started going wrong when that didn't materialise for him.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #126 on: May 13, 2014, 06:54:40 AM »
I can't really remember Stan being singled out for that much abuse. He got stick for under-performing, although I also remember there were a fair
In any case, even if Stan was given dogs abuse (which he wasn't) that is completely exclusive to people not wanting him to die of cancer in his early 30's.

If that was a reply to my post then you've misread what I wrote.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #127 on: May 13, 2014, 08:28:58 AM »
Yes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.
I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.

According to Wikipedia, he hasn't really lasted very long at any club except Brondby (his first job).

Getafe - 1 season, decent job, resigned
Spartak Moscow, 7 months, poor results - sacked
Mallorca - 1 season, decent job - resigned, bad relationship with DoF/board
Swansea - 1 season and a half, decent job at the start, sacked, rumoured fallout with board

Can't be a coincidence.

Yep, Laudrup only ever has one half decent season wherever he goes before it all goes tits up. Not sure why so many people on here would really want him. Is it just the League cup win?

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #128 on: May 13, 2014, 08:29:15 AM »
The more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.

If you had £100m to spend would you trust a bloke who spent £30m on Fellanni to spend it?

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #129 on: May 13, 2014, 08:31:33 AM »
The more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.

If you had £100m to spend would you trust a bloke who spent £30m on Fellanni to spend it?

Yes and I'd be more than happy to have Fellaini in our midfield.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #130 on: May 13, 2014, 09:07:20 AM »
The more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.

If you had £100m to spend would you trust a bloke who spent £30m on Fellanni to spend it?

Yes and I'd be more than happy to have Fellaini in our midfield.

Moyes paid all that money for Fellaini and played him out of position. Play him just off the striker and he'll score you goals.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #131 on: May 13, 2014, 09:45:15 AM »
The more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.

If you had £100m to spend would you trust a bloke who spent £30m on Fellanni to spend it?

Yes and I'd be more than happy to have Fellaini in our midfield.

Moyes paid all that money for Fellaini and played him out of position. Play him just off the striker and he'll score you goals.

Jeeps he (not that we could afford him) is exactly the type of player we miss. Scores goals from midfield, plays just off the striker and brings a certain amount of thuggery / physicality we do not have, in both penalty boxes

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #132 on: May 13, 2014, 07:53:06 PM »
Yes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.
I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.

According to Wikipedia, he hasn't really lasted very long at any club except Brondby (his first job).

Getafe - 1 season, decent job, resigned
Spartak Moscow, 7 months, poor results - sacked
Mallorca - 1 season, decent job - resigned, bad relationship with DoF/board
Swansea - 1 season and a half, decent job at the start, sacked, rumoured fallout with board

Can't be a coincidence.

Yep, Laudrup only ever has one half decent season wherever he goes before it all goes tits up. Not sure why so many people on here would really want him. Is it just the League cup win?

No he also got them into mid-table which for Swansea is a decent finish.  And if I remember they weren't in a terrible position when he got the sack.  It does sound like a money issue to me, but I think if Swansea were going to progress than Laudrup had the right to ask for a bit more investment.  I think he could do a good job for Villa personally.

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #133 on: May 13, 2014, 08:00:10 PM »
With all this going on we need to keep lambert in place until new owners are in. Could be weeks months or years. If the sale price is 200 , it needs another 100 thrown at it so we need someone with a min 300m burning a hole .

Please form a queue

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Re: So who do you want as the next Villa manager?
« Reply #134 on: May 13, 2014, 08:05:32 PM »
If the sale price is 200 , it needs another 100 thrown at it so we need someone with a min 300m burning a hole .

Please form a queue

This is the reason I'm not too confident of a quick sale.

 


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