Quote from: Stu on May 12, 2014, 02:41:14 PMI can't really remember Stan being singled out for that much abuse. He got stick for under-performing, although I also remember there were a fair amount of fans saying that he played an unsung role in the Villa midfield.In any case, even if Stan was given dogs abuse (which he wasn't) that is completely exclusive to people not wanting him to die of cancer in his early 30's.He got pelters at home to Newcastle one day where he was awful in the first half. Was taken off at half time and we hammered them in the second half afterwards. He had 2 very underwhelming seasons where he was carrying timber and struggling badly for stamina. Got better when we played three in midfield next to Barry and whoever was the plus one at the time - Sidwell or Reo Coker. Later was very good next to Milner who was more mobile than Barry which helped Petrov more.Lots of players have come back from very bad starts, Henderson is the prime example, even Delph at Villa. Remember how bad Delph was for a long time? Shows a lot of character but thats what a top professional should have in buckets.
I can't really remember Stan being singled out for that much abuse. He got stick for under-performing, although I also remember there were a fair amount of fans saying that he played an unsung role in the Villa midfield.In any case, even if Stan was given dogs abuse (which he wasn't) that is completely exclusive to people not wanting him to die of cancer in his early 30's.
Yes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on May 12, 2014, 11:56:02 PMYes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.
I can't really remember Stan being singled out for that much abuse. He got stick for under-performing, although I also remember there were a fair In any case, even if Stan was given dogs abuse (which he wasn't) that is completely exclusive to people not wanting him to die of cancer in his early 30's.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on May 13, 2014, 12:52:10 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on May 12, 2014, 11:56:02 PMYes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.According to Wikipedia, he hasn't really lasted very long at any club except Brondby (his first job).Getafe - 1 season, decent job, resignedSpartak Moscow, 7 months, poor results - sackedMallorca - 1 season, decent job - resigned, bad relationship with DoF/boardSwansea - 1 season and a half, decent job at the start, sacked, rumoured fallout with boardCan't be a coincidence.
The more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 12, 2014, 09:46:19 PMThe more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.If you had £100m to spend would you trust a bloke who spent £30m on Fellanni to spend it?
Quote from: Fasth56 on May 13, 2014, 08:29:15 AMQuote from: Toronto Villa on May 12, 2014, 09:46:19 PMThe more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.If you had £100m to spend would you trust a bloke who spent £30m on Fellanni to spend it?Yes and I'd be more than happy to have Fellaini in our midfield.
Quote from: enigma on May 13, 2014, 08:31:33 AMQuote from: Fasth56 on May 13, 2014, 08:29:15 AMQuote from: Toronto Villa on May 12, 2014, 09:46:19 PMThe more I think about the more I think it will be Moyes. New owner looking for a safe pair of hands. Moyes wouldn't be my choice, but if you are a chairman who has just spent the best part of 200m you want to have some assurances that the next 50-100m you give to the manager in transfer fees and wages is spent with as little risk as possible. Or at least as responsibly as possible. He has significant PL experience and while he didn't succeed at Man U, was still in charge of one of the biggest teams in the world. He'll have gained some valuable experience from that. If you are looking for a comeback story, Moyes and Villa could be it.If you had £100m to spend would you trust a bloke who spent £30m on Fellanni to spend it?Yes and I'd be more than happy to have Fellaini in our midfield.Moyes paid all that money for Fellaini and played him out of position. Play him just off the striker and he'll score you goals.
Quote from: SheffieldVillain on May 13, 2014, 01:01:04 AMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on May 13, 2014, 12:52:10 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on May 12, 2014, 11:56:02 PMYes, there was a very scathing piece in the Guardian about that, which seemed to come from players at the club. I'd have fancied Laudrup as our appointment right up until I read that, at which point I realised he'd actually be the last thing we'd need.I read that the Swansea board are very low key and supportive and that Laudrup must have really upset them for it to end the way it did.According to Wikipedia, he hasn't really lasted very long at any club except Brondby (his first job).Getafe - 1 season, decent job, resignedSpartak Moscow, 7 months, poor results - sackedMallorca - 1 season, decent job - resigned, bad relationship with DoF/boardSwansea - 1 season and a half, decent job at the start, sacked, rumoured fallout with boardCan't be a coincidence.Yep, Laudrup only ever has one half decent season wherever he goes before it all goes tits up. Not sure why so many people on here would really want him. Is it just the League cup win?
If the sale price is 200 , it needs another 100 thrown at it so we need someone with a min 300m burning a hole . Please form a queue