Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?

[dave.woodhall]

1985-86 was terrible too

West Brom Finished Bottom and Blues second bottom which saved us but Blues still beat us 3-0 at our place

At least according to this website

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/match/index.html?event=3;season=1985%2F86;team=242

I honestly can't remember that game at all

I can. They were in the Witton Lane and all round the ground afterwards.

[PeterWithe]

I dont think there is much in it, both eras seem to have given up and accepted whatever fate decrees, difference is 87 this meant certain relegation, this lot might survive by the skin of their teeth though no credit is due.

[Damo70]

Weren't we outside tips for the top places in the league is 1986/87...

There was a degree of excitement as we had improved the side by bringing Hunt and Blair back towards the end of the previous season and then brought in Keown, Cooper and Thompson in the summer. The squad was on paper a big improvement on the one that kicked off the previous season.

[Brend'Watkins]

The 86/87 side was worse overall but this side without Benteke and Okore have the ability to be just as bad

[silhillvilla]

86/87 was bad but I don't remember much about the games as we generally spent 90% of the game "connecting" with the opposition fans. The 0-3 away loss at Charlton (at palace) is arguably the defining moment of that season.
Hull on Saturday may be the defining moment of 13/14.

[FranzBiberkopf]

I can. They were in the Witton Lane and all round the ground afterwards.

Two things spring to mind that day:

1. They were fcuking horrible that day. Spitting on the women, kids and old boys in the Witton Lane etc, swanning about like they owned the place.

2. 0-3 flattered us. I think they hit the bar twice also. Wayne Clarke did all the damage IIRC.

[Damo70]

I can. They were in the Witton Lane and all round the ground afterwards.

Two things spring to mind that day:

1. They were fcuking horrible that day. Spitting on the women, kids and old boys in the Witton Lane etc, swanning about like they owned the place.

2. 0-3 flattered us. I think they hit the bar twice also. Wayne Clarke did all the damage IIRC.

I'm pretty sure they played fat Billy Wright up front with Clarke. Considering they managed to be even worse than us that season my mate and I were wondering exactly how many we would win by.

[richard moore]

Weren't we outside tips for the top places in the league is 1986/87...

In my mind, we are every season before it begins...

[Chico Hamilton III]

I can. They were in the Witton Lane and all round the ground afterwards.

Two things spring to mind that day:

1. They were fcuking horrible that day. Spitting on the women, kids and old boys in the Witton Lane etc, swanning about like they owned the place.

2. 0-3 flattered us. I think they hit the bar twice also. Wayne Clarke did all the damage IIRC.

I'm pretty sure they played fat Billy Wright up front with Clarke. Considering they managed to be even worse than us that season my mate and I were wondering exactly how many we would win by.

I could be mixing my derby matches here, but I think this game cemented my hatred for Vince Overson

[Damo70]

Overson was later, part of the Leyland Daf and Foghorn Gleghorn days. Amazingly his central defensive partner was even worse than him. Trevor Mathewson. Trust me when they talk about 'Trev' being a legend they aren't talking about him.

[Bishop Brennan]

I was going to attempt picking a Best XI based on the two squads combined, but I just can't summon up the courage.

The 86/87 squad (below) probably had the edge in terms of individual talent, but as a functioning team they fall well short of 2013/14 in my opinion.

http://www.worldfootball.net/teams/aston-villa/1987/2/

PS does anybody remember Stuart Ritchie? I don't have any recollection of him whatsoever.

Bish

[dave.woodhall]

I was going to attempt picking a Best XI based on the two squads combined, but I just can't summon up the courage.

The 86/87 squad (below) probably had the edge in terms of individual talent, but as a functioning team they fall well short of 2013/14 in my opinion.

http://www.worldfootball.net/teams/aston-villa/1987/2/

PS does anybody remember Stuart Ritchie? I don't have any recollection of him whatsoever.

Bish

Came on as sub at Old Trafford and had what was until recently the shortest-ever Villa career. I think Chris Boden beat him.

[Hoppo]

Stuart Ritchie played 3 times as a sub at the end of that season. Dark haired kid. He played midfield.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm pretty sure he only played once, at OT as Dave mentions.

[Bishop Brennan]

I'm pretty sure he only played once, at OT as Dave mentions.

Yep, his Wiki entry mentions just the one sub appearance. Signed for Crewe, but never made the first team, before ending up playing for Waterford in Ireland.

Bish