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Which side was worse

1986-87 under McNeill
25 (53.2%)
2013-14 under Lambert
22 (46.8%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Author Topic: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?  (Read 7917 times)

Offline levico

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2014, 09:07:24 PM »
This side definitely worse but the 1966/67 team was worse than both.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2014, 11:39:46 PM »
The '87 side finished rock bottom with 36 points from 42 games and eight points from safety so they were the worst. So this Villa team are only the second worst in my lifetime.

Offline Reuben

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2014, 07:02:25 AM »
The 86/87 side were awful, far less than the sum of their parts, and weren't capable of the odd good performance.  At least this season the side have shown flashes of potential against some good sides.
I don't recall the performances of that season (my first conscious season was the year after) but a couple of draws v Liverpool sounds good.  Were they deserved?  I appreciate we were thrashed by Forest, Norwich, Charlton etc

Offline oldham_villa

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2014, 07:06:33 PM »
86/87 for me, though the defensive frailties are very similar.

Elliott is still the worst centre half I've seen at the Villa, though Baker is neck and neck with him.

Lowton's defending is probably worse than a hybrid of Bernie Gallagher, Andy Comyn and Steve Watson.

El Ahmadi adds as much to the team as Neale Cooper did.

Holt is as mobile as Andy Gray

Weimann is doing a good impression of Simon Stainrod too

Offline He wears a magic hat

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2014, 12:09:56 AM »
Statistically 86/87 side was the worst but I voted for this years side purely on yhe fact that I can never remember coming out of a match feeling so bored and deprived of any entertainment so often.
Maybe times a great healer and uou forget hut I don't remember feeling that way in 87

Offline Damo70

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2014, 08:20:00 AM »
In '86-'87 we were pretty poor until we beat Charlton on Boxing Day and that changed everything. After that we were absolutely abysmal.

Offline supertom

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2014, 01:03:28 PM »
87 was a little before my time as a Villa fan. But honestly I'm not sure any side in our history could play as cluelessly as we have for the vast majority of Lamberts time here. It's not just the poor standard of player we have here, it's just how utterly clueless they look on the pitch and devoid of any ideas and organisation which is worse.

Certainly in my time 90-present, Lamberts side has been the worst. He's making McLeish look competent at the moment.

Offline Steve R

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2014, 01:53:33 PM »
Maybe there should be a voting option for McLeish's team. I am struggling to think of the redeeming feature that makes them better than this season's offering.

Other than that the 86/7 team, although the worst I have ever seen was the 66/7 outfit.

Online LeeB

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2014, 02:46:17 PM »
87 was a little before my time as a Villa fan. But honestly I'm not sure any side in our history could play as cluelessly as we have for the vast majority of Lamberts time here. It's not just the poor standard of player we have here, it's just how utterly clueless they look on the pitch and devoid of any ideas and organisation which is worse.

Certainly in my time 90-present, Lamberts side has been the worst. He's making McLeish look competent at the moment.

Trust me, 86-87 was worse.

Offline London Villan

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2014, 03:15:17 PM »
Weren't we outside tips for the top places in the league is 1986/87...

Offline supertom

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2014, 06:32:17 PM »
87 was a little before my time as a Villa fan. But honestly I'm not sure any side in our history could play as cluelessly as we have for the vast majority of Lamberts time here. It's not just the poor standard of player we have here, it's just how utterly clueless they look on the pitch and devoid of any ideas and organisation which is worse.

Certainly in my time 90-present, Lamberts side has been the worst. He's making McLeish look competent at the moment.

Trust me, 86-87 was worse.
Jesus mate. If that's the case you must have only just recovered from the 87 season. This season has been so bad it feels like I'll take about 30 years to get over it.

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2014, 09:34:48 PM »
I think the reason this lot seem worse is that we have had 4 seasons of decline - '87 we crashed and burned not this slow lingering death by ineptitude

Offline Colin B

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2014, 11:29:20 PM »
1987 by a Country Mile

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2014, 11:40:27 PM »
What makes 87 so much worse, for me it at least, is that it was so soon after being the best in England and Europe. 5 years after lifting the European Cup we finished bottom of the league, and deserved to be bottom.

Offline Colin B

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Re: Which side was worse - 1987 or this seasons?
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2014, 11:54:35 PM »
1985-86 was terrible too

West Brom Finished Bottom and Blues second bottom which saved us but Blues still beat us 3-0 at our place

At least according to this website

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/match/index.html?event=3;season=1985%2F86;team=242

I honestly can't remember that game at all

 


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