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Offline andyaston

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2014, 09:15:19 PM »
What Pullis has done with Palace is a minor miracle. Puncheon is the only player in that team line up who you would think of as any good enough for the Prem but, they are playing out of their skins getting results. They have been in European form post Holloway.

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2014, 10:17:25 PM »
For all his faults, Pulis organises teams, gives everybody a clear role, plays to the players strengths and uses every possible means to get a result... I wish we had some of his ideas being put into action.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2014, 10:51:43 PM »
Is this tactical genius Pulis in any way related to the bloke who Lambert's team beat and outplayed on their own pitch last season?

Yep the one who plays dire, turgid football and has managed to keep clubs half the size of Villa in the Premiership more comfortably that our managers (including Lambert) in recent seasons even though we have managed to match his heights of uninspired football.

By your rationale Lambert is a genius as he has managed to beat Chelsea and Arsenal this season and their inept managers.

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2014, 10:58:55 PM »
To be fair, Stoke under Pulis spend 80M quid - Net spend. That is a big chunk of change.

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2014, 11:12:09 PM »
To be fair, Stoke under Pulis spend 80M quid - Net spend. That is a big chunk of change.

That's why he got the flick, IMO. He spent a lot of Coates's money and his team still relied on elbows, throw-ins and marginal refereeing decisions.

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2014, 11:51:33 PM »
To be fair, Stoke under Pulis spend 80M quid - Net spend. That is a big chunk of change.

That's why he got the flick, IMO. He spent a lot of Coates's money and his team still relied on elbows, throw-ins and marginal refereeing decisions.

Aye. Not sure how much he has spent at Palace so far. Will be interesting to see how he goes on.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2014, 10:44:55 AM »
For all his faults, Pulis organises teams, gives everybody a clear role, plays to the players strengths and uses every possible means to get a result... I wish we had some of his ideas being put into action.

The same as Allardyce. They are limited but get the organisation and basics right. Ideal managers to get you up and/or keep you up.

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2014, 04:51:35 PM »
The fact that the reports on Vlaar and Clark are exactly the same is bizarre.
The debate on here is not about who is more tactically astute between Pulis and Lambert: it is about the implied systematic cheating in a professional game that has many £££'s riding on it.

It's just plain wrong and - if found to be accurate - the perpetrators should be caned ... but won't be by a toothless FA.

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2014, 05:15:49 PM »
I wonder how much the bribe was to give the team sheet in advance and did it come with a player by player fact sheet?

The other question is who apart from Lambert knew the team selection in advance?

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2014, 05:17:53 PM »
The fact that the reports on Vlaar and Clark are exactly the same is bizarre.
The debate on here is not about who is more tactically astute between Pulis and Lambert: it is about the implied systematic cheating in a professional game that has many £££'s riding on it.

It's just plain wrong and - if found to be accurate - the perpetrators should be caned ... but won't be by a toothless FA.

Those bits were added on by the Mirror to show what was on the actual sheets. They probably cocked that up themselves.

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2014, 05:21:55 PM »
I wonder how much the bribe was to give the team sheet in advance and did it come with a player by player fact sheet?

The other question is who apart from Lambert knew the team selection in advance?

I suppose it would depend on when he was going to decide to play that way. I did wonder if Barry Banana had something to do with this as I suppose he is still friends with people like Marc and Andi.

The fact sheet was their own scouts reports.

Offline dcdavecollett

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2014, 11:41:50 PM »
I love the way that -for some people- Villa's shit performances (of which there have been far too many) are Lambert's responsibility but the very good ones aren't!!

No bias here, then...

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2014, 11:50:03 PM »
The fact that the reports on Vlaar and Clark are exactly the same is bizarre.

Another 2 players were linked in the same way.
I'm wondering if someone at The Mirror decided to duplicate a couple because the comments otherwise would have been too negative to print. It would be nice if they were considering the impact on the players concerned but it may have had more to do with fear of litigation!

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2014, 01:30:02 PM »
If it's the mirror id speculate cock up over conspiracy!

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Spygate II
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2014, 01:33:43 PM »
Just reading the Lowton one again: "lightweight", "lacking confidence", "no trick", "struggles in tight spaces".

Ouch

 


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