Culverhouse and Karsa suspended (Now both sacked: Reply #876)

[dave shelley]

God forbid Ian Taylor ever went into management and got the Villa gig. Imagine what it would be like on here with some individuals if he failed.

As it stands, for me, Ian Taylor is Mr Aston Villa.  A very humble, down-to- earth man, personable and Villa to the core.

[saunders_heroes]

God forbid Ian Taylor ever went into management and got the Villa gig. Imagine what it would be like on here with some individuals if he failed.

As it stands, for me, Ian Taylor is Mr Aston Villa.  A very humble, down-to- earth man, personable and Villa to the core.

One of the reasons managers are so well paid is because of the grief they get if they fail. It comes with the territory. Taylor can do no wrong while he is a paid ambassador of the club, he can't fail!

[dave shelley]

I would respectfully suggest that managers are as well paid as they are is because their employers see their ability to manage and to move the club forward.  If they were paid for grief there would be a booming business in professional mourners.

[saunders_heroes]

I would respectfully suggest that managers are as well paid as they are is because their employers see their ability to manage and to move the club forward.

That sounds like something Paul Faulkner would come out with.

[lovejoy]

With Platt we had a sell on clause but when he went from Bari to Juve they put in 2 Carlos kick a balls as make weights, so we got fuck all. Doug the master business man as ever.

[Rolta]

God forbid Ian Taylor ever went into management and got the Villa gig. Imagine what it would be like on here with some individuals if he failed.

As it stands, for me, Ian Taylor is Mr Aston Villa.  A very humble, down-to- earth man, personable and Villa to the core.

One of the reasons managers are so well paid is because of the grief they get if they fail. It comes with the territory. Taylor can do no wrong while he is a paid ambassador of the club, he can't fail!

This is definitely made up.

[pauliewalnuts]

God forbid Ian Taylor ever went into management and got the Villa gig. Imagine what it would be like on here with some individuals if he failed.

As it stands, for me, Ian Taylor is Mr Aston Villa.  A very humble, down-to- earth man, personable and Villa to the core.

One of the reasons managers are so well paid is because of the grief they get if they fail. It comes with the territory. Taylor can do no wrong while he is a paid ambassador of the club, he can't fail!

This is definitely made up.

I think it's a fair enough point. It isn't necessarily a direct relationship but it is one of the things that make up the equation in football.

The downside of being a manager is getting grief, having people tell you how to do your job all the time, putting up with insane chairmen and cossetted 20 something millionaires, being under the microscope so much, constantly being at risk of the sack if you pick up a few duff results ... all those things.

The positives are you are hugely paid, you get plenty of free time, you're doing something you love, you're famous etc etc etc.

[Rolta]

God forbid Ian Taylor ever went into management and got the Villa gig. Imagine what it would be like on here with some individuals if he failed.

As it stands, for me, Ian Taylor is Mr Aston Villa.  A very humble, down-to- earth man, personable and Villa to the core.

One of the reasons managers are so well paid is because of the grief they get if they fail. It comes with the territory. Taylor can do no wrong while he is a paid ambassador of the club, he can't fail!

This is definitely made up.

I think it's a fair enough point. It isn't necessarily a direct relationship but it is one of the things that make up the equation in football.

The downside of being a manager is getting grief, having people tell you how to do your job all the time, putting up with insane chairmen and cossetted 20 something millionaires, being under the microscope so much, constantly being at risk of the sack if you pick up a few duff results ... all those things.

The positives are you are hugely paid, you get plenty of free time, you're doing something you love, you're famous etc etc etc.

It's still made up. They do a high pressure job where they get paid plenty because they are dealing with a multi-million pound business. The fact that they get stick is irrelevant to the actual job and it's loony to say they get paid more because of getting stick (I think)! Seems a totally warped way at looking at it to me

[Legion]

If they fail, they get a handsome pay-off.

[pauliewalnuts]

God forbid Ian Taylor ever went into management and got the Villa gig. Imagine what it would be like on here with some individuals if he failed.

As it stands, for me, Ian Taylor is Mr Aston Villa.  A very humble, down-to- earth man, personable and Villa to the core.

One of the reasons managers are so well paid is because of the grief they get if they fail. It comes with the territory. Taylor can do no wrong while he is a paid ambassador of the club, he can't fail!

This is definitely made up.

I think it's a fair enough point. It isn't necessarily a direct relationship but it is one of the things that make up the equation in football.

The downside of being a manager is getting grief, having people tell you how to do your job all the time, putting up with insane chairmen and cossetted 20 something millionaires, being under the microscope so much, constantly being at risk of the sack if you pick up a few duff results ... all those things.

The positives are you are hugely paid, you get plenty of free time, you're doing something you love, you're famous etc etc etc.

It's still made up. They do a high pressure job where they get paid plenty because they are dealing with a multi-million pound business. The fact that they get stick is irrelevant to the actual job and it's loony to say they get paid more because of getting stick (I think)! Seems a totally warped way at looking at it to me

What do you mean by "made up"? Something you disagree with?

They get paid to do the job, and the job involves lots of stuff that the likes of you and I don't have to deal with in our day to day existence.

If you want to take it literally, no, I'm sure you won't find an entry in their contract saying "you're getting paid more because people shout at you", but I don't think saunders heroes meant that for a nanosecond. It's not in their contract, but I don't see how anyone can not see it as part of the deal. It has always been like that.

I don't get into a taxi and find the driver telling me where I've gone wrong with my job, but I bet Paul Lambert does. It is just part and parcel of being a high profile football industry employee.

[pauliewalnuts]

If they fail, they get a handsome pay-off.

Indeed, which is the best indicator you need of how being a football manager is totally incomparable with just about every other kind of job.

[Somniloquism]

If they fail, they get a handsome pay-off.

Indeed, which is the best indicator you need of how being a football manager is totally incomparable with just about every other kind of job.

I suppose it depends what type of job you compare to a football manager. Dealing with multi million pound purchases and sales and also expected to produce results which could earn the club millions should be up there with senior execs in most businesses, especially with the also being a public front of the club thrown in as well. And at those levels, most execs get some sort of golden handshakes when leaving even as failures.

[David_Nab]

If they fail, they get a handsome pay-off.

Also in most cases they manage to walk back into another job.

[claret and blue blood]

Any news on possible replacements for the evil duo? Billy Stark ,Scotland's under 21 coach was muted a few weeks ago,listened to him on Sky today and he seemed decent?

[PaulWinch again]

Football managers remind me a lot of CEOs of big companies, if they fail they get a golden handshake and they just seem to rotate jobs with different companies.