Culverhouse and Karsa suspended (Now both sacked: Reply #876)

[brian green]

Clive Tyseley.   Not even Norwich can be that mad.   Like putting a wife batterer in charge of a women's refuge.

[Villa in Denmark]

Randy's statement made particular reference to loyalty to the club, which gives me the indication that the Norwich link might have something to it.

I think it has more to do with Lambert choosing the club over his mates.  Of course if they've been stitching him up in any way, it becomes a much easier decision.

[silhillvilla]

Gareth Barry Island

[brian green]

Gareth Southgate.   Apologies if it has already been posted but my son Damon's quote is the pithiest of the pithy.   He said "They told Lambert if he wanted to keep his job he had to go out in the boat and shoot Fredo".

[James]

I'm a frequent reader here but don't post too often these days. The fact is, all the speculation about Dumb & Dumber aside, how can all of you have failed to mention MORTIMER railway station? 

[The Laughing Policeman]

Talking of train stations, does anyone actually get on or off at Duddeston?

Not since 1972

That was me, and I can confirm that Duddeston station is a physical manifestation of a portal into the Fourth Dimension.
I got off there by accident in 1972 and have been condemned ever since. Every time I go to Villa Park now all I can see before me are Cumbes, Aitken, Curtis, Gidman, Nicholl, Hamilton, McMahon, Rioch, Beard, Graydon , Little and Ross.
I must admit as a curse it's not too bad, but be warned......if you get off at Duddeston now you will relive this season for the rest of your life.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Talking of train stations, does anyone actually get on or off at Duddeston?

I will be tomorrow morning with the car temporarily out of action...

[olaftab]

It's very possible although I doubt it. I'm still swaying towards the player animosity theory. It would explain why we've been so inconsistently poor this season.

Ahahaa Clampers me old mucker that's what you would like it to be as it fits what we desire.

[olaftab]

Talking of train stations, does anyone actually get on or off at Duddeston?

Not since 1972

Not since  1992.

[ChicagoLion]

This stuff does not happen in organisations that are well managed and led. This tells you everything you need to know about what a mess the Club are in.

Maybe just maybe if the owner showed up occasionally, they didn't have an Account Manager as CEO or if they had a manager that knew what the fuck his staff were up to tis shit would not happen.

[caster troy]

Lerner finally speaks and it's to praise Lambert's loyalty? Is he taking the piss? Lambert should be thanking his lucky stars he hasn't been sacked despite his performance warranting that about 10 times over. He was hardly likely to walk out was he? And then the comment about how we've avoided a setback... how much further back can we go? Lose every single game? Never score at all? Lose 10-0 at home to Stoke instead of 4-1?

How about thanking the fans for their loyalty, turning out in numbers to support the team despite us being frankly unwatchable in most games at Villa Park?

To sum up we've got an awful manager, a Chairman who ridiculously seems to think he's doing a good job despite the farcical scenes on and off the pitch, and everyone is clinging to the vain hope that the reason we've been terrible for 2 years is that the players didn't like the coaches?

[pauliewalnuts]

I must admit, I am happy these changes have taken place - better they happened than it dragged on even longer - but I do wonder, if Lambo was so in favour of binning them, how the fuck has it been allowed to go on so long?

If it is because Lambert just wasn't around or turned a blind eye to it, then that's a concern. Then again, if it is true that he tried to bin them ages ago, but the club wouldn't let him - and it is easy to guess what sort of reason they'd have for not wanting to do this, sadly - then that is every bit as worrying.

If it is a heavily negative influence, how has it gone on this long?

[Chris Smith]

I must admit, I am happy these changes have taken place - better they happened than it dragged on even longer - but I do wonder, if Lambo was so in favour of binning them, how the fuck has it been allowed to go on so long?

If it is because Lambert just wasn't around or turned a blind eye to it, then that's a concern. Then again, if it is true that he tried to bin them ages ago, but the club wouldn't let him - and it is easy to guess what sort of reason they'd have for not wanting to do this, sadly - then that is every bit as worrying.

If it is a heavily negative influence, how has it gone on this long?

You do need grounds to sack people or be prepared to pay large compensation payouts. You can understand why they would see it as a last resort.

[caster troy]

I must admit, I am happy these changes have taken place - better they happened than it dragged on even longer - but I do wonder, if Lambo was so in favour of binning them, how the fuck has it been allowed to go on so long?

If it is because Lambert just wasn't around or turned a blind eye to it, then that's a concern. Then again, if it is true that he tried to bin them ages ago, but the club wouldn't let him - and it is easy to guess what sort of reason they'd have for not wanting to do this, sadly - then that is every bit as worrying.

If it is a heavily negative influence, how has it gone on this long?

Exactly. If Lambert was so detached that he wasn't aware of the problem, that is a shocking indictment of his managerial style. If he was close to it but did nothing, that is even worse.

I find it hard to believe the club would stand in his way if he knew and tried to do something about it and Lerner's statement wouldn't make sense in that context.

[Monty]

I must admit, I am happy these changes have taken place - better they happened than it dragged on even longer - but I do wonder, if Lambo was so in favour of binning them, how the fuck has it been allowed to go on so long?

If it is because Lambert just wasn't around or turned a blind eye to it, then that's a concern. Then again, if it is true that he tried to bin them ages ago, but the club wouldn't let him - and it is easy to guess what sort of reason they'd have for not wanting to do this, sadly - then that is every bit as worrying.

If it is a heavily negative influence, how has it gone on this long?

You do need grounds to sack people or be prepared to pay large compensation payouts. You can understand why they would see it as a last resort.

I think you must be right Chris. If in doubt, with this board, assume the parsimonious motive.