Culverhouse and Karsa suspended (Now both sacked: Reply #876)

[fbriai]

And to think we were expecting a quiet week leading up to another dreary defeat on the weekend.

God, I love football.

Oh and, for our rail-inspired team, I propose Phil King-ham at left-back and Gary Charl-es-bury at right-back.

[olaftab]

Mr Woodhall on Talksport now

His yam yam accent is barely detectable.

I always assumed the guy was in his 70's....I sense I'm wrong listening to him.

No not in his 70's still lives in the 70's! Anyway what did his greatness proffer?

[dave.woodhall]

Mr Woodhall on Talksport now

His yam yam accent is barely detectable.

I always assumed the guy was in his 70's....I sense I'm wrong listening to him.

No not in his 70's still lives in the 70's! Anyway what did his greatness proffer?

A clip round the ear for cheeky young posters.

[Clampy]

Mr Woodhall on Talksport now

His yam yam accent is barely detectable.

I always assumed the guy was in his 70's....I sense I'm wrong listening to him.

No not in his 70's still lives in the 70's! Anyway what did his greatness proffer?

A clip round the ear for cheeky young posters.

Was that on Andy Goulstein's show last night? I normally have that on.

[Ron Manager]

Mr Woodhall on Talksport now

His yam yam accent is barely detectable.

I always assumed the guy was in his 70's....I sense I'm wrong listening to him.

No not in his 70's still lives in the 70's! Anyway what did his greatness proffer?

A clip round the ear for cheeky young posters.

Dave. As a matter of interest which Law Firm  do the club use?  I was awaiting an interview at Hammonds a few years ago when Gordon Taylor came in and sat next to me. Nice fellow. He said he liked coming back to Birmingham because people remembered him as a footballer and not as an union official. He said he wished he was still playing.

[Richard E]

It used to be Edge and Ellison, who then became part of Hammonds Suddard Edge, which then became Hammonds, which then became, if I remember correctly, Squire Sanders. No idea who they use now. Sadly not my firm!

[Villa in Denmark]

For all the Lambert must be useless for letting this go on etc.. comments, is it not possible / plausible that Lambert has been trying to make things work, at least just to get through to the end of the season, or working under guidance from Faulkner / HR, presumably to minimise exposure to compensation claims later.

Whatever happened at the weekend was obviously severe enough to invoke a procedure that usually is reserved for Gross Misconduct, which is usually physical violence, passing of company sensitive information, embezzlement, theft or such like.  You can draw your own conclusions as to which fits best with the events of the weekend through to yesterday.

If the weekend was "just" a continuation of whatever had gone before, it would just have resulted in the next stage of the process, which wouldn't be something we would hear about unless it was the last step and P45s for Culverhouse and Karsa.

Something drastic happened on Saturday over and above whatever else was going on for it to end with suspension pending investigation.

[fbriai]

It seems that there have been a number of incidents over a period of time and this weekend was the final straw. Without any more information, all we really have is conjecture, but it is hard to imagine that Lambert hasn't seriously fallen out with the two of them for it to have reached this point. The question is then, where does that leave him? He was the one who brought them to the club and who has worked with them for all this time. To what extent has success he has had in the past been based on his working relationship with them and how successful can he be working with Sid and Shay?

However it pans out, I quite like the idea of promoting the coaches and assistants from within the club. We don't leave ourselves open to being left in the lurch if the manager flounces out just before the start of the season and we also leave open a door for the players to potentially progress through when their playing days are coming to an end.

[teamvillage]

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[bertlambshank]

For all the Lambert must be useless for letting this go on etc.. comments, is it not possible / plausible that Lambert has been trying to make things work, at least just to get through to the end of the season, or working under guidance from Faulkner / HR, presumably to minimise exposure to compensation claims later.

Whatever happened at the weekend was obviously severe enough to invoke a procedure that usually is reserved for Gross Misconduct, which is usually physical violence, passing of company sensitive information, embezzlement, theft or such like.  You can draw your own conclusions as to which fits best with the events of the weekend through to yesterday.

If the weekend was "just" a continuation of whatever had gone before, it would just have resulted in the next stage of the process, which wouldn't be something we would hear about unless it was the last step and P45s for Culverhouse and Karsa.

Something drastic happened on Saturday over and above whatever else was going on for it to end with suspension pending investigation.

It's been going for weeks,a poster said as much on here.

[bobdylan]

I assume Stan is not ready to get back into coaching again yet or he would have been called in.  Maybe next season if he's ready and Shay moves on.

[not3bad]

Has anyone posted this article from the Guardian yet? http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/15/aston-villa-coaches-ian-culverhouse-gary-karsa

Apologies if so.

[Ron Manager]

It would be interesting to hear what Stephen Ireland has to say on this situation. He might have information that may be... er..interesting.

Or then again it may not.

[aev]

Don't think you can suspend someone for being crap.

You terminate someone's contract for being crap.

[Simon Ward]

Late to the party as usual!

Steve Foster Square.