Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Goldie.7]

Painfully predictable as many of us posted in the pre-match thread.  How far we have fallen that both Fulham and Palace have done the double over us but few of us are surprised.  Why oh why did he not change it early in the 2nd half?  Holt and Gabby were ineffective and it was crying out for some width/pace.  Albrighton did more in 10mins than either of them did.  What has happened to Gabby?  He looks disinterested, appears to be carrying timber and is miles off the pace - always falling over and looking at the ref for a decision that he will never get.  I actually feel for Delph and Westwood as I feel they can pick out a pass but they look up and the strikers are not making intelligent runs nor is there a wide man to hit.  Hence pass it back again.  I am numb from watching this turgid shite week in week out.  I will always love Villa and this is REALLY hard to stomach.

Add Stoke & Newcastle to the double list, two very ordinary teams against any other clubs. What's happened to Gabby, nothing he's just not a very good player. He never has been. 'week in week out' you could of just said 'years'

[silhillvilla]

The only positive is that we didn't waste our time or money going. Bag of shite.

[Steve kirk]

I was at Bodymore Heath yesterday, my Granddaughter was playing in a tournament there, there was a piece of stripey filth laughing his head off when he heard Palace had scored, as we were all heading for the exit Spurs equalised and I caught his expression, it managed to make me smile, I even watched MOTD because of it.

[dl9]

Just in, via a few pubs and a curry. In short, we were second best against a team who offered nothing. The manager has somehow got us into a tailspin that, if we survive or not, indicates that he's list his influence and must go in the summer, regardless. Week after week we see this shit and nothing changes. Time to go.

Fair play to you for being there everwhere my son. You're right, he's lost most on here and looks like the dressing room also. When Chelsea needed a goal against PSG last week - you could see there was a belief throughout heir team (before Ba scored), tell me the last time we had that visible in our team?

[loughborough villain]

I didn't go yesterday, when I got up yesterday morning I just couldn't get myself up for it so I got a refund on my train ticket (minus a £10 admin charge) and my match ticket is still sitting on the table.  I didn't go because, sadly, I knew what would happen(not the score but the performance) and that is the problem that I am having right now, basically watching this side bores me!!

I know that they say the table doesn't lie but even if we are not statistically the worst team in the league, we are without a doubt the worst to watch and we are getting worse by the week. 

Going to football is my main source of relaxation/downtime and I blame Mr Lerner for turning this into a chore, Lambert is not helping but he is, like McLeish, doing what he is being told to by his boss and whilst he could be making a better go of it he is not the root of the problem.  If you fill any business with inadequate employees it will fail, you may have the occasional good day but in an environment as tough as the Premier League there is no resting place.

Today I have got up and feel sad that I didn't go yesterday (I am trying to console myself with the fact that my refund on my train ticket has left me in a better financial position) and I am hoping that as next Saturday approaches my love of the club makes me go next week.

I have already renewed my season ticket (and completed my away scheme application) for next year, I love Aston Villa, it is what I do but right now I am seriously considering that unless something changes before August I may looking for another refund, I hope not.

[Virgil Caine]

My thoughts exactly LV, a sad thing perhaps to admit but I had always looked forward to going to the Villa,as I had done since 1968, but the feeling of disappointment and anger now far outweighs the sense of anticipation and excitement. This has been the case for the last three seasons and I will find it very difficult to justify another investment of £800 plus for 2 season tickets. I feel sorry for my lad whose loyalty is now being tested, he has watched some appalling matches at home and in truth probably has only carried on attending because of me.

There is a lack of accountability and responsibility with both the owner and the management. The continual denial of there being a problem is extremely worrying, almost like sleepwalking to an edge of a cliff. I really thought that today that there would be an announcement that Lambert had been sacked, I just cannot understand what Lerner thinks is going to change between now and the end of the season. The problems with the style of playing(style?) have been so obvious along with the very apparent lack of required quality of the playing staff. Even so there are managers out there that can at least inspire ordinary players to play beyond their normal competency yet Lambert evidently cannot do this. Other teams now know, as they have done for the last three years, that this Villa team is there for the taking. The odd exceptional result has been in spite of Lambert rather than because of him.

[frank]

I met a couple of Palace-supporting friends and their teenage sons yesterday. They've endured years of frustration, relegation, poor management and turgid football and have remained loyal throughout it all. I'm beginning to fear that, as in 1967 and 1987, bleak years lie ahead for Villa and our loyalty is going to be similarly tested. As others have said, going to games has become a chore rather than a pleasure. We'll remain loyal, of course, we'll still be supporting Villa long after Lambert and Lerner have gone, and in due course Villa will rise again, but I can't say that I'm looking forward to the journey.

[not3bad]

Complaints about fan behaviour during the minute's silence?

http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Crystal-Palace-fans-hit-Aston-Villa-supporters/story-20953116-detail/story.html

[tom jennings III]

I don't think I can face going to watch Villa again until there are big changes at the club. I love The Villa but after these last 2 games I just can't face it. After the end of last season when our bad run was over and we looked to be turning a corner I just don't understand how, under Lambert's daily tutelage and training, so many players have clearly gone backwards. That, coupled with quite a few first team players who are just pagtently not top flight quality, makes me think that everything I saw that was positive last season and at the start of this was just papering over the cracks. I know the Okore and Benteke injuries in particular have been unlucky but it juist serves to highlight how painfully paper thin our squad is. Delph, Bertrand and Guzan (and maybe Vlaar, & Bacuna) have been the only glimmers of light in a genuinely dark season.

What has happened to Andi, Gabby, Westwood, Lowton? How our decision makers think that Clark, Baker, KEA, Holt, Bennett are good enough for any team in this league let alone the mighty Aston Villa FC is absolutely beyond me. I know Albrighton is a crowd favourite and he works hard but again he is not yet good enough to be anything over than a decent squad player.

So very very depressing. Dark times ahead unless there are dramatic changes within the club from the top down.

[ez]

So it wasn't a bad dream then. We did lose, and he's still with us. Hold on, i posted this last Sunday.

[walsall villain]

I don't think I can face going to watch Villa again until there are big changes at the club. I love The Villa but after these last 2 games I just can't face it. After the end of last season when our bad run was over and we looked to be turning a corner I just don't understand how, under Lambert's daily tutelage and training, so many players have clearly gone backwards. That, coupled with quite a few first team players who are just pagtently not top flight quality, makes me think that everything I saw that was positive last season and at the start of this was just papering over the cracks. I know the Okore and Benteke injuries in particular have been unlucky but it juist serves to highlight how painfully paper thin our squad is. Delph, Bertrand and Guzan (and maybe Vlaar, & Bacuna) have been the only glimmers of light in a genuinely dark season.

What has happened to Andi, Gabby, Westwood, Lowton? How our decision makers think that Clark, Baker, KEA, Holt, Bennett are good enough for any team in this league let alone the mighty Aston Villa FC is absolutely beyond me. I know Albrighton is a crowd favourite and he works hard but again he is not yet good enough to be anything over than a decent squad player.

So very very depressing. Dark times ahead unless there are dramatic changes within the club from the top down.

Can't disagree with any of this, well said

[andrew08]

Complaints about fan behaviour during the minute's silence?

http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Crystal-Palace-fans-hit-Aston-Villa-supporters/story-20953116-detail/story.html

Didn't happen that way. The usual thing occurred with people singing while walking in late and then bring shushed.

Happens during every minutes silence at footy.

[TheTimVilla]

I saw the first half. At half time, my one year old daughter locked me, the wife and four year old son out on the balcony. Just been 'released' by the fire brigade.

On the plus side, I missed the second half. Haven't worked up the courage to read the match report, but I've got a fair idea that words like toothless and inept will crop up.

I really need to get myself a daughter.

And a balcony.

Love this site - even when everything is falling in a heap, something crops u to make you laugh until you cry :-)

Timbert - the tinpot entrepreneur in me sees a fantastic opportunity here - you could charge for your daughters services to routinely go to fellow Lions supporters houses, every time Lamberts superheroes put on a show, - and for a fee, get her to lock us all out of our respective houses - i'd pay a kings ransom for that service just now, only with a slight change in the methodology - you would need to bring her around before kick off to work her magic - then we wouldn't be subjected to even 45 mins of this garbage.

UTV !!

Loving the idea, although we do need to incorporate the local fire brigade. Imagine our joy when we heard the woo woos; imagine our amusement when they drove past our house. My daughter's fee will be to wear as many clothes as she can find - think that time where Joey wore all of Chandler's clothes.

Did I mention we had a cake in the oven whilst we were stranded...?!

[SoccerHQ]

My concern is that I struggle to think of a manager I want at the Villa who would come.

Yep. Both Martinez and OGS turned us down for (probably) the same reasons.
Until Lerner comes to his senses or sells up more managers will turn us down.

OGS had pressure put on him by the bloke who owns Molde.

Martinez wasn't even interviewed as he felt he still owed Wigan.

We may not be the most attractive proposition right now but we are still Aston Villa and plenty of managers would want the job.

Maybe but I expected us to go after some big names when MON walked out and we had finished top 6 three times. And yet our shortlist at the time comprised of MacDonald, Curbishley, Houllier and one other bang average manager who I forgot.

I can't see us getting a significant upgrade on Lambert tbh unless we get a change of ownership sometime soon.

[jembob]

Complaints about fan behaviour during the minute's silence?

http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Crystal-Palace-fans-hit-Aston-Villa-supporters/story-20953116-detail/story.html

Didn't happen that way. The usual thing occurred with people singing while walking in late and then bring shushed.

Happens during every minutes silence at footy.

A similar thing happened to my brother a few years ago. Villa were playing at Bradford (I think) - he had got tanked up in the pub and used the toilets as soon as he got into the ground. As usual on the way to his seat, he joined in the singing of 'what a f@cking sh1t hole' only to realise that it was the middle of the minutes silence for Princess Diana.