The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[chrisw1]

The problems prospective purchasers will have over and above the purchase price are
1 The gap between the future revenue and expenditure which is predominantly player wages.
2.The liabilities arising out of the players contracts.
3. The cost of satisfying those player contracts including write offs.
4 The cost of financing new players Fees and wages.

I am sure if they worked hard enough on negotiations they could get rid of Guzan, Hutton, Richards, Lescott, Bacuna and Gabby for a nett cost to the Club of £5m, maybe closer to break even.  At £5m, that is the equivalent of £100k a week, which is less than Richards and Gabby's wages now.

That would be a great base to attack points 1 to 3 that you have listed.

to pay off Gabbys contract I think is about is £6 million if there are 2 years left.
No idea how you think they could get rid of that lot for £5 mil.

You do not have to pay them all off.  We will certainly have to pay some 'sweeteners' to get some of the players to move but I think we would break even on Guzan, Hutton, Lescott and Bacuna.  I think there will be interest in Richards and he will want to leave.  It depends on how much we get for him, what reduction in wages are written in their contracts and whether Gabby will stick out for a full pay off.  This is how I got to £5m and how it could be closer to break even.

i have no idea how we would break even on those players, let's hope there are some real fools out there.

We never managed to break even on Ireland, NZogbia, Bent or any of the other 'bomb squad' type players and there's little prospect of us doing so now with the shite we've amassed in this squad.

[old man villa fan]

The problems prospective purchasers will have over and above the purchase price are
1 The gap between the future revenue and expenditure which is predominantly player wages.
2.The liabilities arising out of the players contracts.
3. The cost of satisfying those player contracts including write offs.
4 The cost of financing new players Fees and wages.

I am sure if they worked hard enough on negotiations they could get rid of Guzan, Hutton, Richards, Lescott, Bacuna and Gabby for a nett cost to the Club of £5m, maybe closer to break even.  At £5m, that is the equivalent of £100k a week, which is less than Richards and Gabby's wages now.

That would be a great base to attack points 1 to 3 that you have listed.

to pay off Gabbys contract I think is about is £6 million if there are 2 years left.
No idea how you think they could get rid of that lot for £5 mil.

You do not have to pay them all off.  We will certainly have to pay some 'sweeteners' to get some of the players to move but I think we would break even on Guzan, Hutton, Lescott and Bacuna.  I think there will be interest in Richards and he will want to leave.  It depends on how much we get for him, what reduction in wages are written in their contracts and whether Gabby will stick out for a full pay off.  This is how I got to £5m and how it could be closer to break even.

i have no idea how we would break even on those players, let's hope there are some real fools out there.

We never managed to break even on Ireland, NZogbia, Bent or any of the other 'bomb squad' type players and there's little prospect of us doing so now with the shite we've amassed in this squad.

Different argument.

[tomd2103]

I can't shake the feeling that this  is all TBAR-type BS and we're fooked.

Same. It's a well trodden path from what I can see.

The only branch of hope I am clinging on to us that I think there might have been some additions or movement at board levels after the resignations had there not been something in the pipeline.  I also think we might have appointed a manager as well.

[pbavfckuwait]

Tom that's no indicator at AVFC, it took the man child ten years to put a proper board together at all, then he loses two of them inside a month.

[SheffieldVillain]

The problems prospective purchasers will have over and above the purchase price are
1 The gap between the future revenue and expenditure which is predominantly player wages.
2.The liabilities arising out of the players contracts.
3. The cost of satisfying those player contracts including write offs.
4 The cost of financing new players Fees and wages.

I am sure if they worked hard enough on negotiations they could get rid of Guzan, Hutton, Richards, Lescott, Bacuna and Gabby for a nett cost to the Club of £5m, maybe closer to break even.  At £5m, that is the equivalent of £100k a week, which is less than Richards and Gabby's wages now.

That would be a great base to attack points 1 to 3 that you have listed.

to pay off Gabbys contract I think is about is £6 million if there are 2 years left.
No idea how you think they could get rid of that lot for £5 mil.

You do not have to pay them all off.  We will certainly have to pay some 'sweeteners' to get some of the players to move but I think we would break even on Guzan, Hutton, Lescott and Bacuna.  I think there will be interest in Richards and he will want to leave.  It depends on how much we get for him, what reduction in wages are written in their contracts and whether Gabby will stick out for a full pay off.  This is how I got to £5m and how it could be closer to break even.

i have no idea how we would break even on those players, let's hope there are some real fools out there.

We paid £600k for Guzan, Richards was on a free transfer, Bacuna cost £3m and Gabby didn't cost anything in terms of transfer fee. We'll easily make that back on them. Hutton and Lescott probably not.

We only have to pay them their contracts if no-one comes in for them at the same wages. I think Guzan and Lescott will get contracts in the USA, some fool will take that arse Richards and Bacuna will probably go abroad. Gabby is the only real problem one, in my opinion. And even then there have been rumours of interest from the UAE.

[cdward]

I can't shake the feeling that this  is all TBAR-type BS and we're fooked.

Same. It's a well trodden path from what I can see.

Just go back to page one of this thread, April 2014, TBAR rumours of a takeover... Groundhog Day, except now we are a championship team for sale.

[Richard E]

Unless people think that Steve Hollis is deliberately lying, there are discussions at least with interested parties. It may all come to nothing but that does not mean that the club are simply making it up.

[Ger Regan]

We paid £600k for Guzan, Richards was on a free transfer, Bacuna cost £3m and Gabby didn't cost anything in terms of transfer fee. We'll easily make that back on them. Hutton and Lescott probably not.

Bacuna cost under a million, didn't he?

[Phil from the upper holte]

Unless people think that Steve Hollis is deliberately lying, there are discussions at least with interested parties. It may all come to nothing but that does not mean that the club are simply making it up.

Because it's not taking a minute people get impatient

[Phil from the upper holte]

So are we fucking sold or not?

[Jon Crofts]

I can't shake the feeling that this  is all TBAR-type BS and we're fooked.

Same. It's a well trodden path from what I can see.

Strewn with turds from the devils own satanic herd.

[brian green]

That is very neat Jon.  Line from Ghost Riders In The Sky "....trying to catch the Devil's herd across these endless skies".  Go to the top of the class.

[chrisw1]

The problems prospective purchasers will have over and above the purchase price are
1 The gap between the future revenue and expenditure which is predominantly player wages.
2.The liabilities arising out of the players contracts.
3. The cost of satisfying those player contracts including write offs.
4 The cost of financing new players Fees and wages.

I am sure if they worked hard enough on negotiations they could get rid of Guzan, Hutton, Richards, Lescott, Bacuna and Gabby for a nett cost to the Club of £5m, maybe closer to break even.  At £5m, that is the equivalent of £100k a week, which is less than Richards and Gabby's wages now.

That would be a great base to attack points 1 to 3 that you have listed.

to pay off Gabbys contract I think is about is £6 million if there are 2 years left.
No idea how you think they could get rid of that lot for £5 mil.

You do not have to pay them all off.  We will certainly have to pay some 'sweeteners' to get some of the players to move but I think we would break even on Guzan, Hutton, Lescott and Bacuna.  I think there will be interest in Richards and he will want to leave.  It depends on how much we get for him, what reduction in wages are written in their contracts and whether Gabby will stick out for a full pay off.  This is how I got to £5m and how it could be closer to break even.

i have no idea how we would break even on those players, let's hope there are some real fools out there.

We never managed to break even on Ireland, NZogbia, Bent or any of the other 'bomb squad' type players and there's little prospect of us doing so now with the shite we've amassed in this squad.

Different argument.

How so?  A bunch of over paid players who are shit.  We won't come close to breaking even, particularly if you are chucking Gabby into the mix.

[ChicagoLion]

We paid £600k for Guzan, Richards was on a free transfer, Bacuna cost £3m and Gabby didn't cost anything in terms of transfer fee. We'll easily make that back on them. Hutton and Lescott probably not.

Bacuna cost under a million, didn't he?

its not how much he cost, it's the cost of getting him and others of the wage bill which I think will be significant.
The real point I was trying to make is a new owner has to find the money to pay Randy and a quite a lot of money to rebuild the squad.

[brian green]

That is the issue, Chicago, that is going to be kicked into the long grass by the advisors of the new owners.  It will be too tempting to think that the problem players can be made to change their ways than to pay good money to be rid of them.