The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[ciggiesnbeer]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2699215/MARTIN-SAMUEL-If-Financial-Fair-Play-gift-club-owners-buy-Aston-Villa.html

I hate having to agree with Martin Samuel, but he is spot on there.

Agree with that.

I was ready to mock, but yeah. Good article.

[Toronto Villa]

not that I am disagreeing entirely with his article, but clubs like Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Wigan, Swansea to name a few has shown you don't need to spend like Chelsea or Barcelona to be competitive or win trophies. If we found an owner even of Lerner's level financially but motivated to invest in line with PL revenues which keep on growing then most of us would be just fine. It would be great to think that competing with Man City was just around the corner with the right investment, but I'd take competing with Newcastle or Everton as stepping stone. You don't need to be Sheik Mansoor to do that.

[Phil from the upper holte]

How have Chelsea spunked so much cash then?

[paul_e]

How have Chelsea spunked so much cash then?

Because they sold Luiz for £50m, which gives them a big chunk to play with.

[ktvillan]

not that I am disagreeing entirely with his article, but clubs like Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Wigan, Swansea to name a few has shown you don't need to spend like Chelsea or Barcelona to be competitive or win trophies. If we found an owner even of Lerner's level financially but motivated to invest in line with PL revenues which keep on growing then most of us would be just fine. It would be great to think that competing with Man City was just around the corner with the right investment, but I'd take competing with Newcastle or Everton as stepping stone. You don't need to be Sheik Mansoor to do that.

And what happens when the likes of Atletico Madrid, Sevilla and co do achieve some success?  The rich boys simply come in and plunder all their best players and they are back to square one.  As Southampton are currently discovering.  Sustained success is now impossible without a sugar daddy splashing the cash.  Those without have long been just making up the numbers.  The only real hope was the possibility that they might be the next lucky winner of the sugar daddy lottery.  All FFP is doing is pretty much removing that final hope and rubber stamping the closed shop.

[David_Nab]

How have Chelsea spunked so much cash then?

Because they sold Luiz for £50m, which gives them a big chunk to play with.

Likely to get a decent fee for Lukau too , sold Mata and Van Buryne last season for good money too.Chelsea snap up players young then sell them on for decent fee's .Add Champs league cash and decent sponsorship from Samsung and that's how they continue to spend.

Interesting stat in last 9 years 3 clubs have won the league United /Chelsea and City take afer the latter 2 getting their from rich owners and United would have dominated.

Athetico and Southampton are 2 clubs that did well last season , Chelsea have taken 3 players off Athetico and Liverpool alone have taken 3 off Southampton.Whilst they top teams have always plunderd the smaller clubs for one club to take around a 3rd of another teams players in one hit is pretty poor going.

[bertlambshank]

Ian Taylor is taking us over its all making sense now.

[Ads]

The richer clubs have always bought the best players though. What is happening to Southampton isn't something new.

[Hookeysmith]

not that I am disagreeing entirely with his article, but clubs like Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Wigan, Swansea to name a few has shown you don't need to spend like Chelsea or Barcelona to be competitive or win trophies. If we found an owner even of Lerner's level financially but motivated to invest in line with PL revenues which keep on growing then most of us would be just fine. It would be great to think that competing with Man City was just around the corner with the right investment, but I'd take competing with Newcastle or Everton as stepping stone. You don't need to be Sheik Mansoor to do that.

And what happens when the likes of Atletico Madrid, Sevilla and co do achieve some success?  The rich boys simply come in and plunder all their best players and they are back to square one.  As Southampton are currently discovering.  Sustained success is now impossible without a sugar daddy splashing the cash.  Those without have long been just making up the numbers.  The only real hope was the possibility that they might be the next lucky winner of the sugar daddy lottery.  All FFP is doing is pretty much removing that final hope and rubber stamping the closed shop.

A closed shop is what they always wanted and now have

[pauliewalnuts]

The most succinct description of FFP I've heard is that it is the 'big' clubs "pulling up the ladder behind them".

[clash city rocker]

And when it comes to ' big clubs' we missed the boat..shame really

[johnny from donny]

A few of the DNS on twitter are saying the club has been taken off the market & Randy is staying

[Legion]

DNS?

[olaftab]

A few of the DNS on twitter are saying the club has been taken off the market & Randy is staying

Last season it was Benteke this season it's Randy we are truly blessed.

[Toronto Villa]

DNS?

Don't 'now Shits?