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Author Topic: The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL  (Read 2835323 times)

Offline Matt C

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5880 on: May 30, 2014, 09:12:27 PM »
Spent nothing apart from the 100m+ in loans and associated interest he wrote off. Apart from that.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5881 on: May 30, 2014, 09:50:17 PM »
@RobHarris: Tevfik Arif has no interest in buying Aston Villa I'm told (following reports today)

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5882 on: May 30, 2014, 10:02:51 PM »
@RobHarris: Tevfik Arif has no interest in buying Aston Villa I'm told (following reports today)

Futures bright, the futures not orange

Shame, I was looking forward to the teams entrance song blasting out as Borats National Anthem

http://youtu.be/UfPrQqbikb4
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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5883 on: May 30, 2014, 10:04:17 PM »
If he isn't that fussed about money how come we haven't spent much in the last year?!

Except the 90m he wrote off in January, obvs.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5884 on: May 30, 2014, 10:10:13 PM »
If he isn't that fussed about money how come we haven't spent much in the last year?!

Except the 90m he wrote off in January, obvs.

He didn't write it off. He just decided he didn't owe it to himself after all. And exchanged it for equity in a business he already owned.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5885 on: May 30, 2014, 10:13:18 PM »
@RobHarris: Tevfik Arif has no interest in buying Aston Villa I'm told (following reports today)

Futures bright, the futures not orange

Shame, I was looking forward to the teams new entrance song blasting out as Borats National Anthem

http://youtu.be/UfPrQqbikb4

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5886 on: May 30, 2014, 10:17:15 PM »
If he isn't that fussed about money how come we haven't spent much in the last year?!

Except the 90m he wrote off in January, obvs.

He didn't write it off. He just decided he didn't owe it to himself after all. And exchanged it for equity in a business he already owned.

He did write it off.

Randy Lerner does not equal the business. Legally they are not the same thing.

If he'd left the debt there, anyone wanting to buy the business would have had to repay the debt, or the club would have had to do so under his ownership eventually. He has effectively chalked it off.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5887 on: May 30, 2014, 11:04:44 PM »
If he isn't that fussed about money how come we haven't spent much in the last year?!

Except the 90m he wrote off in January, obvs.

He didn't write it off. He just decided he didn't owe it to himself after all. And exchanged it for equity in a business he already owned.

He did write it off.

Randy Lerner does not equal the business. Legally they are not the same thing.

If he'd left the debt there, anyone wanting to buy the business would have had to repay the debt, or the club would have had to do so under his ownership eventually. He has effectively chalked it off.
Do we know exactly how much e is in for after taking dividends, salary, interest and management charges? My guess he will make a loss but the net position will not be huge.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5888 on: May 30, 2014, 11:19:24 PM »
  If you look at the valuation Lerner is placing on the club, according to reports, versus the price he paid for Villa in the first place he is effectively loading much of the debt into the sale.

  Isn't Rob Harris the guitarist from Jamiroquai?  What the chuffing hell does he know about the sale of Villa?

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5889 on: May 30, 2014, 11:25:15 PM »
The LA Clippers just sold for $2bn. A team that was a force sale because the former owner got kicked out of the league. It means that there were other billionaires that didn't bid enough. At £250m, Aston Villa is cheap. There are lots of rich people out there looking to buy sports teams and especially ones in such a high profile sport in arguably the most high profile league in the world.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5890 on: May 30, 2014, 11:25:22 PM »
If he isn't that fussed about money how come we haven't spent much in the last year?!

Except the 90m he wrote off in January, obvs.

He didn't write it off. He just decided he didn't owe it to himself after all. And exchanged it for equity in a business he already owned.

He did write it off.

Randy Lerner does not equal the business. Legally they are not the same thing.

If he'd left the debt there, anyone wanting to buy the business would have had to repay the debt, or the club would have had to do so under his ownership eventually. He has effectively chalked it off.
Do we know exactly how much e is in for after taking dividends, salary, interest and management charges? My guess he will make a loss but the net position will not be huge.

How many times does it have to be said that he hasn't taken a single penny in salary or dividends?

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5891 on: May 30, 2014, 11:46:25 PM »
If he isn't that fussed about money how come we haven't spent much in the last year?!

Except the 90m he wrote off in January, obvs.

He didn't write it off. He just decided he didn't owe it to himself after all. And exchanged it for equity in a business he already owned.

He did write it off.

Randy Lerner does not equal the business. Legally they are not the same thing.

If he'd left the debt there, anyone wanting to buy the business would have had to repay the debt, or the club would have had to do so under his ownership eventually. He has effectively chalked it off.
Do we know exactly how much e is in for after taking dividends, salary, interest and management charges? My guess he will make a loss but the net position will not be huge.

How many times does it have to be said that he hasn't taken a single penny in salary or dividends?
Never knew that but he / the trust were taking interest and management charges

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5892 on: May 30, 2014, 11:47:13 PM »
Never knew that but he / the trust were taking interest and management charges

Once, I believe.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5893 on: May 30, 2014, 11:48:27 PM »
There's many things randy can be accused of in these apocolyptic times - spending money badly and bad football decisions - but the notion he's not spent any money is utter  nonsense.

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Re: The Current Lack of a Takeover Thread WITH EVEN NEWER POLL
« Reply #5894 on: May 31, 2014, 12:00:33 AM »
Never knew that but he / the trust were taking interest and management charges

Once, I believe.
I did read a while back someone being fairly concerned with the charge backs to associated entities at that time.

I think that most people accept that Randy was not in this to make money, I would also guess he didn't expect things to turn out as bad as they have financially.

 


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