The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[old man villa fan]

The worrying think for me is that Lerner will probably want at least £200m for Villa and that would be with about £100m loss to him.  On top of that, a new owner would have to invest at least £30-40m straight off and more to come.

Who wants to invest that much in football now for a club that is so far away from the top.  As a business venture, it does not stack up in the short to medium term so we are relying on somebody on an ego trip.

The alternative is a new owner who sees a long slow climb back as being financially viable but will the Villa fans will accept that.  I do not think so in the world we now live in.

[bertlambshank]

Leaving the match report late on the OS.Hopefully they are busy typing up something a bit more important.

It will be tomorrow. I don't think they would do anything today. It will be face to face with Faulkner tomorrow is my hopeful guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok_42shL_5E

[Rolta]

Anyone else in the "Lambert needs to go" camp find themselves not actually that bothered if he does or not because they're too focused on the takeover?

No, I want him gone yesterday. Ultimately no better than Big Eck

One of these managers put the club in a secure financial position on a tiny budget with an inexperienced squad (as a result of fixing the finances) – and has had to play without 3 of his most expensive signings for most of the season. The other one signed Given on a 5 year deal and N'Zogbia on 4 years or something – plus Alan Hutton and Jermaine Jenas – he had plenty of expensive proven premiership players on high wages and still did an awful job.

If you really think Lambert has done a job on the level of McCleish, then I despair.

I'm not exactly feeling inspired as a Villa supporter right now, but I for one can see that Lambert has been in a pretty thankless position since he's been here. Some managers come to clubs and bring success by spending loads of money, but the clubs (Portsmouth, Leeds) disappear because they were spending above their means. That's where we were going (only without the success). Even if Lambert goes, he has definitely done an impressive job on the finances and put the club in a decent position for the future. Now all we need are better footballers :p

[Legion]

McLeish.

[Percy McCarthy]

The worrying think for me is that Lerner will probably want at least £200m for Villa and that would be with about £100m loss to him.  On top of that, a new owner would have to invest at least £30-40m straight off and more to come.

Who wants to invest that much in football now for a club that is so far away from the top.  As a business venture, it does not stack up in the short to medium term so we are relying on somebody on an ego trip.

The alternative is a new owner who sees a long slow climb back as being financially viable but will the Villa fans will accept that.  I do not think so in the world we now live in.

I don't want owners who see it as a business venture. I want an egotist who wants us to have a front three of Ronaldo, Bale and Messi. But seriously, if you want it to work as a business I think you need to create the kind of club who will attract huge sponsorship, commercial income, TV money and crowds.

[silhillvilla]

Just hope there isn't anything more sinister going on behind the scenes.
Some of the noises / vibes seem really dark and negative.

[Rolta]

McLeish.

I didn't even want to write his name

[Rudy65]

Anyone else in the "Lambert needs to go" camp find themselves not actually that bothered if he does or not because they're too focused on the takeover?

No, I want him gone yesterday. Ultimately no better than Big Eck

One of these managers put the club in a secure financial position on a tiny budget with an inexperienced squad (as a result of fixing the finances) – and has had to play without 3 of his most expensive signings for most of the season. The other one signed Given on a 5 year deal and N'Zogbia on 4 years or something – plus Alan Hutton and Jermaine Jenas – he had plenty of expensive proven premiership players on high wages and still did an awful job.

If you really think Lambert has done a job on the level of McCleish, then I despair.

I'm not exactly feeling inspired as a Villa supporter right now, but I for one can see that Lambert has been in a pretty thankless position since he's been here. Some managers come to clubs and bring success by spending loads of money, but the clubs (Portsmouth, Leeds) disappear because they were spending above their means. That's where we were going (only without the success). Even if Lambert goes, he has definitely done an impressive job on the finances and put the club in a decent position for the future. Now all we need are better footballers :p

You are being too kind

He only lost Benteke a month ago and Kozak in feb. Hardly most of the season. okore,  i grant was a big loss.

Not sure how much you watch but in no way has Lamber done a impressive job as you suggest. He has spent smething like 40m, chicken feed compared to man City but which should  at least enable us to compete with Palace and Stoke.

[Legion]

Sorry. TOSM.

[ozzjim]

Hughes got 50 points this season with Stoke. Pulis got Palace to 47. Both more than we have seen in 4 years. Lambert has spent 40 million. And we are weak, disorganised and regressed terribly from being a genuine threat going forward to being limp and defensive.

He simply has to go.

[Deano's Mullet]

Does anyone think that even with the squad we had Hughes, Pulis, maybe even Allardyce would all still have got more out of the team in terms of efficiency, performances on the pitch and tactically more ambitious? That 45 mins spell of passing at Liverpool haunts me. Why didn't we set up to play like that more often?

[sirlordbaltimore]

One of these managers put the club in a secure financial position on a tiny budget with an inexperienced squad (as a result of fixing the finances) – and has had to play without 3 of his most expensive signings for most of the season. The other one signed Given on a 5 year deal and N'Zogbia on 4 years or something – plus Alan Hutton and Jermaine Jenas – he had plenty of expensive proven premiership players on high wages and still did an awful job.

If you really think Lambert has done a job on the level of McCleish, then I despair.

Our last set of accounts were woeful. Secure financial position my arse! the wage bill had gone up in the last report i'm sure

Tiny budget = 45m, or over 22m per season. Hardly chicken feed

Not only do i dislike him more than McLeish as a manager, I think he's done an even worse job

[john e]

If we got new owners with bundles of money surely they wouldn't just be able to splash it around on top players because of the fair play rules

Not that it matters cus the sale to a multi billionaire ant gona happen anyway, IMO

[Mazrim]

Lambert has done an appalling job. He bemoaned the fact he had to use academy players but where is the strker HE bought? (Helenius) Where is the winger he bought? (Tonev). Why are we playing a loan player at left back when he has signed two left backs already and with money so tight? Why did he buy Kozak at all when we needed a midfielder so desperately? Why take a fat useless oaf from warming Wigan's bench to warm ours instead? Why has he allowed the coaching staff he hired to poison the atmosphere at the club and oversee terrible training regimes? Why is Baker played instead of Clark when he's quite clearly hopeless? Why do the team play like strangers? The team hardly changes after all? Karim El Ahmadi?

Terrible manager. Terrible job.

[bertlambshank]

Does anyone think that even with the squad we had Hughes, Pulis, maybe even Allardyce would all still have got more out of the team in terms of efficiency, performances on the pitch and tactically more ambitious? That 45 mins spell of passing at Liverpool haunts me. Why didn't we set up to play like that more often?

When we press we get time on the ball and look a good side.It's in the side but the manager has failed apart from the odd half to get it out of the players.