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Offline aj2k77

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2265 on: May 08, 2014, 01:49:13 PM »
If Lambert really is in the dark about the statement then it is a shocking way to treat a senior employee of the club in my view, whatever else I think about his qualities.

Yeah it's what I thought too. In general the silence from the upper level of the club though out a very tough 4 years for the support has been disrespectful and insulting and on the odd occasion when they have spoke it's lacked any kind of sincerity or adknowledgement of the situation and has been surrounded in PR pap.

Bollocks to the lot of them. We need a clear out. I don't wan't Randy or his lackies at the Villa any longer.

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2266 on: May 08, 2014, 01:51:12 PM »
Is this the same MysteryMan who told us that under no circumstances would Alex McLeish join the club?
Yes the same one who also told us about Darren Bent

No he didn't; that one was from a lot closer to here. His stuff is right more often than it's wrong though.
Sorry Dave if I got that wrong thinking about it I could have swore MM mentioned it at the time but it may well have been on VT and his subsequent meltdown quote but as you say he does have a decent track record. Did he not back track fairly quickly on the AM statement saying he had got it wrong?

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2267 on: May 08, 2014, 01:53:45 PM »
Is this the same MysteryMan who told us that under no circumstances would Alex McLeish join the club?
Yes the same one who also told us about Darren Bent

No he didn't; that one was from a lot closer to here. His stuff is right more often than it's wrong though.
Sorry Dave if I got that wrong thinking about it I could have swore MM mentioned it at the time but it may well have been on VT and his subsequent meltdown quote but as you say he does have a decent track record. Did he not back track fairly quickly on the AM statement saying he had got it wrong?

Almost straightaway he said he'd got McLeish wrong; something about a different source than usual.

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2268 on: May 08, 2014, 02:00:30 PM »
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Heard last night, the club is sold and Jurgen Klinsman is to be our next manager

Much as I'd like to believe it, does any realistically expect Jurgen Klinsman to walk out on the US national team, in a World Cup year, after recently signing a contract extension to 2018, to join us????

I know contracts can be broken, and he wouldn't necessarily have to rock up in B6 until August.....but c'mon, get realistic.
He's been managing the US for 3 years. I guess how they do in the WC could influence any deal between ourselves, Klinsmann and the US side, to suit all parties.

That said, at club record he's only had one season and his record wasn't brilliant given that he was at Bayern. He's done good work at the National level but it's a different kettle of fish at club football. He is a big name though and commands a lot of respect. He's certainly the level of profile that would be good at this club. It would be a risk though.

Playing the "if I won the lottery" game for a minute or two.


Klinsmann would be a huge, huge draw, similar to Zola and Gullit at Chelsea in the mid-late 90's for example, it would be a genuine world football figure at the top of the club, and from that it would allow the commercial side to grow and players would have much less issue with coming to the club to play, so it would be a very decent shout from that respect to show you mean business. At the same time with such little club experience, there is the obvious worries of not being up to the rigour of club football.

We shall see, and I will return to my doubting seats.

Offline garyellis

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2269 on: May 08, 2014, 02:04:20 PM »
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Heard last night, the club is sold and Jurgen Klinsman is to be our next manager

Much as I'd like to believe it, does any realistically expect Jurgen Klinsman to walk out on the US national team, in a World Cup year, after recently signing a contract extension to 2018, to join us????

I know contracts can be broken, and he wouldn't necessarily have to rock up in B6 until August.....but c'mon, get realistic.
He's been managing the US for 3 years. I guess how they do in the WC could influence any deal between ourselves, Klinsmann and the US side, to suit all parties.

That said, at club record he's only had one season and his record wasn't brilliant given that he was at Bayern. He's done good work at the National level but it's a different kettle of fish at club football. He is a big name though and commands a lot of respect. He's certainly the level of profile that would be good at this club. It would be a risk though.

Playing the "if I won the lottery" game for a minute or two.


Klinsmann would be a huge, huge draw, similar to Zola and Gullit at Chelsea in the mid-late 90's for example, it would be a genuine world football figure at the top of the club, and from that it would allow the commercial side to grow and players would have much less issue with coming to the club to play, so it would be a very decent shout from that respect to show you mean business. At the same time with such little club experience, there is the obvious worries of not being up to the rigour of club football.

We shall see, and I will return to my doubting seats.
But with the right support staff around him that should lessen the risk. To attract him in the first place it would have to be one hell of a "project"

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2270 on: May 08, 2014, 02:07:59 PM »
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Heard last night, the club is sold and Jurgen Klinsman is to be our next manager

Much as I'd like to believe it, does any realistically expect Jurgen Klinsman to walk out on the US national team, in a World Cup year, after recently signing a contract extension to 2018, to join us????

I know contracts can be broken, and he wouldn't necessarily have to rock up in B6 until August.....but c'mon, get realistic.
He's been managing the US for 3 years. I guess how they do in the WC could influence any deal between ourselves, Klinsmann and the US side, to suit all parties.

That said, at club record he's only had one season and his record wasn't brilliant given that he was at Bayern. He's done good work at the National level but it's a different kettle of fish at club football. He is a big name though and commands a lot of respect. He's certainly the level of profile that would be good at this club. It would be a risk though.

Playing the "if I won the lottery" game for a minute or two.


Klinsmann would be a huge, huge draw, similar to Zola and Gullit at Chelsea in the mid-late 90's for example, it would be a genuine world football figure at the top of the club, and from that it would allow the commercial side to grow and players would have much less issue with coming to the club to play, so it would be a very decent shout from that respect to show you mean business. At the same time with such little club experience, there is the obvious worries of not being up to the rigour of club football.

We shall see, and I will return to my doubting seats.
If (big IF) it all transpires I'd certainly like to see us take the risk on Klinsmann. I'd imagine he'd be able to tempt a good standard of player to the club and we might see a few promising German players arrive, which would be good. I would also like to think he'd get the best out of our academy.

Then again I would also imagine that a year managing one of the biggest clubs in Europe should hold him in reasonable stead for club management.

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2271 on: May 08, 2014, 02:09:45 PM »
Re Klinsman I was told Sunday from within Bodymoor by 2 people  but personally think its pure rumour . I actually think only Randy Lerner knows what is going on and has not confided in anyone within the club which is causing as much speculation internally as it with us as fans . After the issues surrounging leaked conversations and broken trusts and people generally trying to stir things up after being in Directors corporate hospitality that RL has decided to keep his own councel on this issue . I don't know if they have agreed or a deal with any outside party  or even in early talks but I do know that RL has been advised to take any offer that comes within 200 million . A figure they don't expect to get or certainly didn't up to 3 weeks ago when speculation started to come out .

I can almost gurantee AMcLeish will not be reappointed aswell

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2272 on: May 08, 2014, 02:11:49 PM »
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Heard last night, the club is sold and Jurgen Klinsman is to be our next manager

Much as I'd like to believe it, does any realistically expect Jurgen Klinsman to walk out on the US national team, in a World Cup year, after recently signing a contract extension to 2018, to join us????

I know contracts can be broken, and he wouldn't necessarily have to rock up in B6 until August.....but c'mon, get realistic.
He's been managing the US for 3 years. I guess how they do in the WC could influence any deal between ourselves, Klinsmann and the US side, to suit all parties.

That said, at club record he's only had one season and his record wasn't brilliant given that he was at Bayern. He's done good work at the National level but it's a different kettle of fish at club football. He is a big name though and commands a lot of respect. He's certainly the level of profile that would be good at this club. It would be a risk though.

Playing the "if I won the lottery" game for a minute or two.


Klinsmann would be a huge, huge draw, similar to Zola and Gullit at Chelsea in the mid-late 90's for example, it would be a genuine world football figure at the top of the club, and from that it would allow the commercial side to grow and players would have much less issue with coming to the club to play, so it would be a very decent shout from that respect to show you mean business. At the same time with such little club experience, there is the obvious worries of not being up to the rigour of club football.

We shall see, and I will return to my doubting seats.
But with the right support staff around him that should lessen the risk. To attract him in the first place it would have to be one hell of a "project"

Yes the right support staff is rather crucial. The last time we had strength and depth in that area was a long time ago - probably Little's first couple of years before Gregory went to Wycombe.

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2273 on: May 08, 2014, 02:13:25 PM »
And here's our new CEO reading Randy's statement to the assembled press.


Brilliant

Offline Surrey Villain

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2274 on: May 08, 2014, 02:15:21 PM »
No, I think what you heard was "a Klingon".

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2275 on: May 08, 2014, 02:15:53 PM »
Not to be cynical at all but.

Hmmmm.

Offline ajmant

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2276 on: May 08, 2014, 02:21:09 PM »
Can anyone tell me that if we ever get sold to a multi billionaire what the financial fair play rules would mean for us? Would he be able to invest the silly money that Man City have for example? Or would we realistically have missed the flaming boat again?


Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2277 on: May 08, 2014, 02:24:59 PM »

I've gone from thinking we are on the cusp of a new exciting era with a takeover and new manager, to the depths of despair thinking it's all complete bollocks and we're in for more of the same. Which will probably kill off any last remaining love for football i have such is my contempt for Lerner and Lambert and the whole sodding mess they've made of my club.

I've got my doubts that this so called statement will ever materialise at all.

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2278 on: May 08, 2014, 02:26:25 PM »
Can anyone tell me that if we ever get sold to a multi billionaire what the financial fair play rules would mean for us? Would he be able to invest the silly money that Man City have for example? Or would we realistically have missed the flaming boat again?


We could do what Man City do, even twice what Man City have done but once in Europe we'd get a slap on the wrists and would be told to stop being naughty.

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Re: The Takeover Thread
« Reply #2279 on: May 08, 2014, 02:45:18 PM »
Brace yourself for the worst Sir L B. His statement will be, essentially, we go again. Anything of any import or significance will be like the signing of TSM insofar ad it will be done in total secrecy and without any prior warning.

 


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