The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[Jon Crofts]

Getting Brian Little on board if it was him that did it. Can't think of anything else.

What's Little done of any note though?

"Little"?

Fucking hell.

What did the Romans ever do for us?

[KevinGage]

Lerner said last week that he wanted to sell to people who had the best interests of the club at heart.

If it turns out to be a hedge fund who are all about the £££ then I struggle to see how he can reconcile that.

For that reason, it makes perfect sense.

[ciggiesnbeer]

My only really knowledge or understanding of VC's is related to those fuckers the Phoenix group who screwed over the Rover Group.
There must be good ones out there? Yes?

I have worked closely with several. I was serious when I said that they almost all have the talent principle embedded in their DNA. They believe that people solve problems not hard work or time or money. So they advocate hiring the very best senior person within a domain. In our case the manager.

While that approach I think is foolish to apply for all businesses. it could actually work for a football club.

[Malandro]

I'd say the only way to make money from Aston Villa is to make it successful

[Ads]

Our problem has been money but more the apportionment of it. I think a VC outfit would be mental to get involved in football. You'd have to have champions league income on top of the ridiculous TV money deal to differentiate yourself from the other clubs in the league and it's going to take a lot of patience and investment to get there.

I think of the lot at Coventry and what a balls up they created as an example of VC in football.

[ozzjim]

They were a proper hedge fund weren't they? Sisu??

Know know enough about them, but if Chinese people are investing in is, and are doing so to make money, they will either put a fair bit in up top to make it work long term or they will fail in making money.

[curiousorange]

I don't know how they can make money out of a football club without splurging a titanic amount of cash first. If they're the preferred bidder they're going to need a steady nerve when the cash only appears to be going in one direction.

[Steve67]

They were a proper hedge fund weren't they? Sisu??

Know know enough about them, but if Chinese people are investing in is, and are doing so to make money, they will either put a fair bit in up top to make it work long term or they will fail in making money.

If they have this 'talent' thing in mind, surely Pearson isn't going to be considered as high profile enough? Rodgers, Moyes, Mourinho, Pellegrino would be chased instead? The Mirror get so little right. Probably more BS.

[Ads]

Actually I've just read elsewhere that 17 out of the 20 clubs in 14/15 turned a profit, which surprised me.

It's just us being so used to pissing money I guess.

[Sexual Ealing]

From my (admittedly extremely limited) knowledge of how VCs (or PE - are are they even the same thing? I told you I didn't have a clue) operate, then our case seems to be a classic opportunity. Buy at £100m, invest circa £50m to get us up, sell in two years for £200m +.

It can't be that simple, can it?

[David_Nab]

From my (admittedly extremely limited) knowledge of how VCs (or PE - are are they even the same thing? I told you I didn't have a clue) operate, then our case seems to be a classic opportunity. Buy at £100m, invest circa £50m to get us up, sell in two years for £200m +.

It can't be that simple, can it?

Randy certainly didnt find it simple to sell us that for that amount

[Sexual Ealing]

From my (admittedly extremely limited) knowledge of how VCs (or PE - are are they even the same thing? I told you I didn't have a clue) operate, then our case seems to be a classic opportunity. Buy at £100m, invest circa £50m to get us up, sell in two years for £200m +.

It can't be that simple, can it?

Randy certainly didnt find it simple to sell us that for that amount

True, but Randy wasn't selling under the soon-to-be current TV deal, wanted most of his money back and, well, is Randy.

[TonyD]

I can't see how an asset stripper would find much in B6.   Players on massive contracts, falling crowds and revenue.   So I also don't see a hedge fund buying us as they are purely about making money. When ever do you make money in football.  The next buyer will be somebody who can invest and be prepared to lose money.

[kippaxvilla2]

The MO of venture capitalists is very simple.  They buy low to sell high.  They usually have a five year payback period in mind but it can depend on the project involved.  Initially a decent amount of capital invested in the business to get it going but all loaded onto that businesses balance sheet.  The only way as someone has said of getting a return from us is to get us back to the PL as quickly as possible so to that end heavy investment at the outset is a pre-requisite.

[Sexual Ealing]

The MO of venture capitalists is very simple.  They buy low to sell high.  They usually have a five year payback period in mind but it can depend on the project involved.  Initially a decent amount of capital invested in the business to get it going but all loaded onto that businesses balance sheet.  The only way as someone has said of getting a return from us is to get us back to the PL as quickly as possible so to that end heavy investment at the outset is a pre-requisite.

A much more well-informed version of what I was trying to say. If what you've written (and what I wrote) is true, then it makes perfect sense for VCs to have a go at us, right? And if they do, we don't necessarily have to be worried about them being asset strippers? Or am I being naive?