Lerner/Lambert v Ellis/O'Leary

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

You can argue about Lerner/Lambert/Ellis as regards their good/bad intentions and success/failures but O'Leary was just an utter scumbag and it is regrettable he ever had any association with our club.   

[Toronto Villa]

And the pack is out again all this anti/pro bollocks has to stop.Just because somebody doesn't agree it why does take so many of the pro camp to make the point.

You think there should be a limit to anyone disagreeing with you?

And very few people are solely pro or anti, most have good and bad things to say about Lerner. And anyway, even if people are entirely pro or anti it doesn't matter - what is objected to are hysterical statements based on no evidence whatsoever. If someone had come out and said that they support Lerner because he might one day put in £200m to buy Messi that would be just as ridiculous as someone saying they hate him because he might pull the plug and call in his loans.

I actually think there are a number of purely anti-Lerner people out there hoping and praying he'll sell up. The so called Pro lobby aren't pro at all. I would like to see him fix the manager problem and increase his net spending in the summer from what it has been in recent years. I've been critical of him for hiring McLeish, but also acknowledge that while he has made errors he has done a lot of good things. I'm not oblivious to the fact that most fans view the club only from a footballing side of things and that's absolutely within their rights to do so. It has not been a success, and the last three seasons have been very poor. However I choose to look at it as a complete body of work. It's not perfect, but it is far from shit as some might have you believe. He's made massive investments and I am sure he's not happy about the return.

So you can have purely anti Learner but only so called pro lobby?

yes, read my explanation. There have been a number of posters that want him to sell and go. Plenty of "fuck off Lerner" posts and accusations of asset stripping. If you had any balance in your argument you'd never write that sort of stuff. Nobody that I know endorses Lerner, Faulkner or Lambert 100%.

And it's LERNER, NOT LEARNER, unless you are having trouble LEARNING how to spell his name.

I have never told him to fuck as far as I know,and stop with pulling up about the spellimg.

you haven't but some people have. I would class those people as anti-Lerner. Do you know anyone who is 100% Pro-Lerner? I don't.

[danlanza]

Nice to see the thread turn into a "Pick on bertlambshank tonight " type thread.
A long standing member of the forum and now he is rounded on by those who have got along with him.
Nothing fucking changes does it really.
Lambasting somebody for having a slightly different point of view seems to be popular on here of late.
Get your bloody house in order ffs.
Disgracefull.
Pick the spelling mistakes out of that, then shove them where the sun don't shine.

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#facepalm

[Clampy]

Nice to see the thread turn into a "Pick on bertlambshank tonight " type thread.
A long standing member of the forum and now he is rounded on by those who have got along with him.
Nothing fucking changes does it really.
Lambasting somebody for having a slightly different point of view seems to be popular on here of late.
Get your bloody house in order ffs.
Disgracefull.
Pick the spelling mistakes out of that, then shove them where the sun don't shine.

He hasn't been picked on at all. He joined in a discussion and he got disagreed with. It happens and it will always happen. It's called difference of opinion.

[Legion]

Nice to see the thread turn into a "Pick on bertlambshank tonight " type thread.
A long standing member of the forum and now he is rounded on by those who have got along with him.
Nothing fucking changes does it really.
Lambasting somebody for having a slightly different point of view seems to be popular on here of late.
Get your bloody house in order ffs.
Disgracefull.
Pick the spelling mistakes out of that, then shove them where the sun don't shine.

Will do.

[LeeB]

This country has gone to pot.

[brian green]

I think I am totally pro-Lerner because I consider his faults to have arisen from being badly advised or not advised at all.   I consider him to be entirely well meaning as far as Villa are concerned.  The worst thing I can bring myself to blame him for is naivety and that compared with some of the nest of vipers who now own football clubs is nothing.  For balance I admit I am anti pretty much everybody else.

[dave.woodhall]

I think I am totally pro-Lerner because I consider his faults to have arisen from being badly advised or not advised at all.   I consider him to be entirely well meaning as far as Villa are concerned.  The worst thing I can bring myself to blame him for is naivety and that compared with some of the nest of vipers who now own football clubs is nothing.  For balance I admit I am anti pretty much everybody else.

I agree. Especially with being anti-everything.

[PeterWithesShin]

If it helps, I hate everyone. Apart from Darren. Darren is ace.

[Legion]

bertlambshank has made an error of judgement and has subsequently apologised. Time to move on.

[bertlambshank]

Sorry if  caused any offence to anyone,a made a genuine mistake and feel awful.I will give myself a break for a few,I think I need it.
Once again very sorry.

[Toronto Villa]

bertlambshank has made an error of judgement and has subsequently apologised. Time to move on.

I agree

[PeterWithesShin]

Sorry if  caused any offence to anyone,a made a genuine mistake and feel awful.I will give myself a break for a few,I think I need it.
Once again very sorry.

Cheers for apologising Bert, much appreciated.

[Legion]

Sorry if  caused any offence to anyone,a made a genuine mistake and feel awful.I will give myself a break for a few,I think I need it.
Once again very sorry.

Apology duly accepted.