Lerner/Lambert v Ellis/O'Leary

[Sexual Ealing]

Anyone fancy a dust-up about the Swiss Rambler?

[Clampy]

Despite all the shite claimed, there is no pack on either side. Just people posting their views and different posters agreeing or disagreeing depending on when they are online. It's how an internet forum works funnily enough.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.Since Saturday there has been a change of posting style if anybody 'has a go at the club'.

I'm sorry but that's rubbish, it really is.

[bertlambshank]

Despite all the shite claimed, there is no pack on either side. Just people posting their views and different posters agreeing or disagreeing depending on when they are online. It's how an internet forum works funnily enough.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.Since Saturday there has been a change of posting style if anybody 'has a go at the club'.

I'm sorry but that's rubbish, it really is.

No it isn't some of it has been aimed at me.

[Toronto Villa]

And very few people are solely pro or anti, most have good and bad things to say about Lerner. And anyway, even if people are entirely pro or anti it doesn't matter - what is objected to are hysterical statements based on no evidence whatsoever. If someone had come out and said that they support Lerner because he might one day put in £200m to buy Messi that would be just as ridiculous as someone saying they hate him because he might pull the plug and call in his loans.

I actually think there are a number of purely anti-Lerner people out there hoping and praying he'll sell up. The so called Pro lobby aren't pro at all. I would like to see him fix the manager problem and increase his net spending in the summer from what it has been in recent years. I've been critical of him for hiring McLeish, but also acknowledge that while he has made errors he has done a lot of good things. I'm not oblivious to the fact that most fans view the club only from a footballing side of things and that's absolutely within their rights to do so. It has not been a success, and the last three seasons have been very poor. However I choose to look at it as a complete body of work. It's not perfect, but it is far from shit as some might have you believe. He's made massive investments and I am sure he's not happy about the return.

[dave.woodhall]

And the pack is out again all this anti/pro bollocks has to stop.Just because somebody doesn't agree it why does take so many of the pro camp to make the point.

You think there should be a limit to anyone disagreeing with you?

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I would say I am pro-Villa and desperate for everybody connected to succeed.

[bertlambshank]

And the pack is out again all this anti/pro bollocks has to stop.Just because somebody doesn't agree it why does take so many of the pro camp to make the point.

You think there should be a limit to anyone disagreeing with you?

And very few people are solely pro or anti, most have good and bad things to say about Lerner. And anyway, even if people are entirely pro or anti it doesn't matter - what is objected to are hysterical statements based on no evidence whatsoever. If someone had come out and said that they support Lerner because he might one day put in £200m to buy Messi that would be just as ridiculous as someone saying they hate him because he might pull the plug and call in his loans.

I actually think there are a number of purely anti-Lerner people out there hoping and praying he'll sell up. The so called Pro lobby aren't pro at all. I would like to see him fix the manager problem and increase his net spending in the summer from what it has been in recent years. I've been critical of him for hiring McLeish, but also acknowledge that while he has made errors he has done a lot of good things. I'm not oblivious to the fact that most fans view the club only from a footballing side of things and that's absolutely within their rights to do so. It has not been a success, and the last three seasons have been very poor. However I choose to look at it as a complete body of work. It's not perfect, but it is far from shit as some might have you believe. He's made massive investments and I am sure he's not happy about the return.

So you can have purely anti Learner but only so called pro lobby?

[Toronto Villa]

I would say I am pro-Villa and desperate for everybody connected to succeed.

count me in

[bertlambshank]

And the pack is out again all this anti/pro bollocks has to stop.Just because somebody doesn't agree it why does take so many of the pro camp to make the point.

You think there should be a limit to anyone disagreeing with you?

No and I didn't mean it like that.

[Monty]

And very few people are solely pro or anti, most have good and bad things to say about Lerner. And anyway, even if people are entirely pro or anti it doesn't matter - what is objected to are hysterical statements based on no evidence whatsoever. If someone had come out and said that they support Lerner because he might one day put in £200m to buy Messi that would be just as ridiculous as someone saying they hate him because he might pull the plug and call in his loans.

I actually think there are a number of purely anti-Lerner people out there hoping and praying he'll sell up. The so called Pro lobby aren't pro at all. I would like to see him fix the manager problem and increase his net spending in the summer from what it has been in recent years. I've been critical of him for hiring McLeish, but also acknowledge that while he has made errors he has done a lot of good things. I'm not oblivious to the fact that most fans view the club only from a footballing side of things and that's absolutely within their rights to do so. It has not been a success, and the last three seasons have been very poor. However I choose to look at it as a complete body of work. It's not perfect, but it is far from shit as some might have you believe. He's made massive investments and I am sure he's not happy about the return.

There probably are these purely antis out there, and they're perfectly entitled to their view - God knows the football's given us all enough to complain about. I would side with you, in that I the football is actually the aberration in what has generally been a very well-meant stewardship (pretty big aberration at a, you know, football club, but there it is). However, I don't think anybody is saying there are no problems, and there are quite a few people who seem intent on making up problems about which to bitch and moan - pretty unnecessary, given how many problems there actually are.

[Toronto Villa]

And the pack is out again all this anti/pro bollocks has to stop.Just because somebody doesn't agree it why does take so many of the pro camp to make the point.

You think there should be a limit to anyone disagreeing with you?

And very few people are solely pro or anti, most have good and bad things to say about Lerner. And anyway, even if people are entirely pro or anti it doesn't matter - what is objected to are hysterical statements based on no evidence whatsoever. If someone had come out and said that they support Lerner because he might one day put in £200m to buy Messi that would be just as ridiculous as someone saying they hate him because he might pull the plug and call in his loans.

I actually think there are a number of purely anti-Lerner people out there hoping and praying he'll sell up. The so called Pro lobby aren't pro at all. I would like to see him fix the manager problem and increase his net spending in the summer from what it has been in recent years. I've been critical of him for hiring McLeish, but also acknowledge that while he has made errors he has done a lot of good things. I'm not oblivious to the fact that most fans view the club only from a footballing side of things and that's absolutely within their rights to do so. It has not been a success, and the last three seasons have been very poor. However I choose to look at it as a complete body of work. It's not perfect, but it is far from shit as some might have you believe. He's made massive investments and I am sure he's not happy about the return.

So you can have purely anti Learner but only so called pro lobby?

yes, read my explanation. There have been a number of posters that want him to sell and go. Plenty of "fuck off Lerner" posts and accusations of asset stripping. If you had any balance in your argument you'd never write that sort of stuff. Nobody that I know endorses Lerner, Faulkner or Lambert 100%.

And it's LERNER, NOT LEARNER, unless you are having trouble LEARNING how to spell his name.

[PeterWithesShin]

Despite all the shite claimed, there is no pack on either side. Just people posting their views and different posters agreeing or disagreeing depending on when they are online. It's how an internet forum works funnily enough.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.Since Saturday there has been a change of posting style if anybody 'has a go at the club'.

I'm sorry but that's rubbish, it really is.

No it isn't some of it has been aimed at me.

And you're big enough to dish it out as well. If for example you and SH are making the same point to a poster you disagree with at the same time are you ganging up or is it simply a case of you both disagree and are both online at the same time?

Or if I stated right now I love Lambert and Lerner and fully support them i'm going to take a wild guess that a number of different posters would quote my post saying they disagreed, some more vociferously than others, doesn't mean they are ganging up does it? They'd simply be stating their own view points when they are online.

As I said, it's how an internet forum works and it would be pretty damn boring if we all held the same viewpoint on everything.

[bertlambshank]

And the pack is out again all this anti/pro bollocks has to stop.Just because somebody doesn't agree it why does take so many of the pro camp to make the point.

You think there should be a limit to anyone disagreeing with you?

And very few people are solely pro or anti, most have good and bad things to say about Lerner. And anyway, even if people are entirely pro or anti it doesn't matter - what is objected to are hysterical statements based on no evidence whatsoever. If someone had come out and said that they support Lerner because he might one day put in £200m to buy Messi that would be just as ridiculous as someone saying they hate him because he might pull the plug and call in his loans.

I actually think there are a number of purely anti-Lerner people out there hoping and praying he'll sell up. The so called Pro lobby aren't pro at all. I would like to see him fix the manager problem and increase his net spending in the summer from what it has been in recent years. I've been critical of him for hiring McLeish, but also acknowledge that while he has made errors he has done a lot of good things. I'm not oblivious to the fact that most fans view the club only from a footballing side of things and that's absolutely within their rights to do so. It has not been a success, and the last three seasons have been very poor. However I choose to look at it as a complete body of work. It's not perfect, but it is far from shit as some might have you believe. He's made massive investments and I am sure he's not happy about the return.

So you can have purely anti Learner but only so called pro lobby?

yes, read my explanation. There have been a number of posters that want him to sell and go. Plenty of "fuck off Lerner" posts and accusations of asset stripping. If you had any balance in your argument you'd never write that sort of stuff. Nobody that I know endorses Lerner, Faulkner or Lambert 100%.

And it's LERNER, NOT LEARNER, unless you are having trouble LEARNING how to spell his name.

I have never told him to fuck as far as I know,and stop with pulling up about the spellimg.

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There are two types of posters on this forum. Those who agree with me and those who are wrong.

[PeterWithesShin]

Can we try and keep it civil please folks rather than just getting in digs for the sake of it.