Lerner/Lambert v Ellis/O'Leary

[nick harper]

I really do not understand this obsession that some people have with Lerner attending games. Why does it matter? It isn't 1970 where you have to physically be somewhere to see something. He can watch all of the games and stay in touch with people at the club using his thumbs. The truth is if we were playing well those people criticising the chairman wouldn't give a shit if he attended. In fact they'd tell him to stay away. Unless you physically want to go up to his face to tell him how you felt, what else would him being there really accomplish? Do you think if heard boos from the crowd it would change anything substantially or provide him information that can probably already figure out for himself? Losing creates discontent and he doesn't need to be at the ground to work that out.

I thought the Bolton game had an impact on him but I may have read that on here.

It's the clubs communication that's the problem for me and the feeling of drift and sleepwalking. The fact he is not around just gives the impression of a club lacking direction so its a perception thing.

[Toronto Villa]

I really do not understand this obsession that some people have with Lerner attending games. Why does it matter? It isn't 1970 where you have to physically be somewhere to see something. He can watch all of the games and stay in touch with people at the club using his thumbs. The truth is if we were playing well those people criticising the chairman wouldn't give a shit if he attended. In fact they'd tell him to stay away. Unless you physically want to go up to his face to tell him how you felt, what else would him being there really accomplish? Do you think if heard boos from the crowd it would change anything substantially or provide him information that can probably already figure out for himself? Losing creates discontent and he doesn't need to be at the ground to work that out.

I thought the Bolton game had an impact on him but I may have read that on here.

It's the clubs communication that's the problem for me and the feeling of drift and sleepwalking. The fact he is not around just gives the impression of a club lacking direction so its a perception thing.

The Bolton game was a culmination of a lot of poor results and a general feeling that things weren't going well. I think McLeish would have been fired whether or not the chairman was in attendance. As for the communication, it's really a case of how information is received. If results are going well you wouldn't notice a lot of things that are now perceived as negative. It's not like we were communicating as a club any better than under MON, but because overall the results were better and fans felt better you just didn't notice as much. If Lerner didn't attend games during that period I don't there would have been the same criticism as there is now. It's like Sheik Mansoor at Man City. Do the fans really care if he attends games? All they care about is that the money keeps flowing and the team does well. If the team does well because the chosen manager is doing a good job and the players are playing well, then everything else at a football club is window dressing.

[LeeB]

It's like a boss never being in his office. It creates anarchy. This can extend to senior employees such as football managers.

Maybe if he was there all week he could offer snippets of advice like Doug.

Like "pick Curbishley" or "get rid or Mortimer".

[Quiet Lion]

Given that Lerner has now seemingly imposed the same "live with in our means" restrictions as Doug, chaiman wise it is a draw.

Manager wise, regardless of results, Lambert looks like the lord McGrath next to Pig Nose. Fuck Pig Nose!

[itbrvilla]

Given that Lerner has now seemingly imposed the same "live with in our means" restrictions as Doug, chaiman wise it is a draw.

Manager wise, regardless of results, Lambert looks like the lord McGrath next to Pig Nose. Fuck Pig Nose!

But don't we owe a fortune to Lerner now?

[Dave Clark Five]

It's like a boss never being in his office. It creates anarchy. This can extend to senior employees such as football managers.

Maybe if he was there all week he could offer snippets of advice like Doug.

Like "pick Curbishley" or "get rid or Mortimer".

So the story goes.

[LeeB]

It's like a boss never being in his office. It creates anarchy. This can extend to senior employees such as football managers.

Maybe if he was there all week he could offer snippets of advice like Doug.

Like "pick Curbishley" or "get rid or Mortimer".

So the story goes.

I think it's more believable than Bodymoor Heath being a modern day version of National Lampoons Animal House.

[Damo70]

LeeB's posts have said most of the things I would have to say. Doug loved Villa but loved himself and money even more. Also, he didn't seem to have a lot of love for the most loveable Villa side in living memory. In fact he seemed to have a grudge against a number of individuals who were part of that team and staff. I also didn't enjoy being told by DOL on a regular basis how lucky I was that he had taken time out of his life to do me the honour of managing my club. I'm not chuffed with Lerner or Lambert at the moment but I know which pair I would rather go for a pint with.

[dave.woodhall]

It's like a boss never being in his office. It creates anarchy. This can extend to senior employees such as football managers.

Maybe if he was there all week he could offer snippets of advice like Doug.

Like "pick Curbishley" or "get rid or Mortimer".

So the story goes.

That's what Mortimer said.

[Boz]

I am also interested to know what money people think Doug put in out of his own pocket seeing as how lack of investment is being used as a stick to beat Lerner with.

Anyway, the despicable performance he put up around the Tony Barton testimonial will always mark him out as a scrote in my house.

Totally agree

[Dave Clark Five]

Still all we get is anti- Ellis. What is pro-Lerner and pro-Lambert? That is more important because it is what we are left with.

[not3bad]

Still all we get is anti- Ellis. What is pro-Lerner and pro-Lambert? That is more important because it is what we are left with.

There are plenty of other threads that are commenting on current problems. If a thread comes up that brings up the past it's more likely it will focus on that part.

[The Man With A Stick]

Lambert or O'Dreary is an easy one.  Lambert's just run out of ideas, whereas the other halfwit seemed to go out of his way whenever possible to ridicule both the club and supporters.  I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

[andyaston]

I have to agree with people on here. The fans are not listened to, its almost like a wall of silence, no one answers our questions and we as well as fans, are customers treated almost like those of eBay or Amazon. Lerner shows no interest, his old mate Krulak did one pretty early on when the going got a little tough and Faulkner does cut and paste press releases or interviews. We have no direction and are becoming a laughing stock especially at our beloved home ground where the majority of games the away fans take the piss!

Our history is the only thing keeping us going with any sort of pride.

And what notice did Ellis take?

More than the wall of silence we are stuck with at the moment, even if it wasn't much.

[rob_bridge]

It's like a boss never being in his office. It creates anarchy. This can extend to senior employees such as football managers.

Maybe if he was there all week he could offer snippets of advice like Doug.

Like "pick Curbishley" or "get rid or Mortimer".

So the story goes.

That's what Mortimer said.

What did Barton say? Does anyone know?