f1

[luke:lamf]

It is funny, but 'twas ever thus in F1. Certainly since I've been aware of it in the late 80s you've had :

Senna & Prost pissing over everyone in the red-and-white McClarens
Mansell & Patrese coming 1-2 pretty much every race in one particular season, then just whoever was in a Williams
Hakkinen and Coulthard dominating in silver McClarens
Schumacher pissing it in his Ferrari
Vettel and Webber in the Red Bulls
Now it's Hamilton & Bottas in the Mercedes.

Even Jenson Button managed to win a world title because his Brawn car was unbeatable for just half-a-season.

[Gareth]

Mercedes should just sack off Bottas for 2021 and give number 2 car to Russell - Bottas has been nothing more than a keep quiet seat warmer since he took the car after Rosberg left.

If Lewis then does the perennial F1 thing of believing he is the one to resurrect Ferrari in 2022 - they all want to drive that car at some point in their career then they have Russell with a years front end experience.

[Ad@m]

Mercedes should just sack off Bottas for 2021 and give number 2 car to Russell - Bottas has been nothing more than a keep quiet seat warmer since he took the car after Rosberg left.

If Lewis then does the perennial F1 thing of believing he is the one to resurrect Ferrari in 2022 - they all want to drive that car at some point in their career then they have Russell with a years front end experience.

Russell's contracted to Williams for 2021.

[Gareth]

If Mercedes want that to happen it will, Williams would just get given the next one on Mercedes conveyor

[wince]

Fantastic first race. I love both Hamilton and verstappen but lando Norris is one to watch.

[manic-road]

Well the Monaco Grand Prix continues to be a bore fest, what's the point of having a race where overtaking is virtually imposible? Still the commentators try and make out what a great race it is.

[UK Redsox]

Well the Monaco Grand Prix continues to be a bore fest, what's the point of having a race where overtaking is virtually imposible? Still the commentators try and make out what a great race it is.

I kind of get Croft and Brundle's point about it being a different challenge and that the championship contenders need to win in a variety of circumstances.

However, Monaco just comes down to who has the best in lap / pit stop / out lap combo. So, yep....it's dull

Having said that, it's always nice to hear Hamilton getting wound up. Great driver but a right nob at times.

Bottas' wheel refusing to budge was funny as well

[Ad@m]

The trouble is that modern F1 cars aren't designed for Monaco anymore.  It was OK 60 years ago but now they're too fast and too wide, rendering overtaking impossible.

But that's not the track's fault - two weeks ago Formula e raced around the Monaco GP circuit and it was fantastic - overtakes all over the place.

The track works, and when it does work, it's immense.  But it's just not right for F1 anymore.

[ozzjim]

The trouble is that modern F1 cars aren't designed for Monaco anymore.  It was OK 60 years ago but now they're too fast and too wide, rendering overtaking impossible.

But that's not the track's fault - two weeks ago Formula e raced around the Monaco GP circuit and it was fantastic - overtakes all over the place.

The track works, and when it does work, it's immense.  But it's just not right for F1 anymore.

The cars are too big full stop.

I do find it quite amusing that Red Bull have whinged and complained about everything and anything to the FIA for 4 seasons, got them to change the rules so much its cost Merc nearly 2 seconds a lap and finally put them in front of Merc, then get defensive that teams are complaining about them. A more hypocritical man in sport than Horner you will not find.

Lando Norris though, that kid is going a long way.

[Ad@m]

The trouble is that modern F1 cars aren't designed for Monaco anymore.  It was OK 60 years ago but now they're too fast and too wide, rendering overtaking impossible.

But that's not the track's fault - two weeks ago Formula e raced around the Monaco GP circuit and it was fantastic - overtakes all over the place.

The track works, and when it does work, it's immense.  But it's just not right for F1 anymore.

The cars are too big full stop.

I do find it quite amusing that Red Bull have whinged and complained about everything and anything to the FIA for 4 seasons, got them to change the rules so much its cost Merc nearly 2 seconds a lap and finally put them in front of Merc, then get defensive that teams are complaining about them. A more hypocritical man in sport than Horner you will not find.

Lando Norris though, that kid is going a long way.

F1's got a bright future with Lando and George Russell. Both ridiculously fast.

As for Horner, he's no different to all the others. When other teams are winning it's because they're cheating. When they're winning it's because they're just brilliant.

[ozzjim]

Horner adds an element of smug shit head to it though. Fight to survive hadn't helped him, of all the protagonists he comes off particularly badly.

I think this season is painfully clear that the downforce regs change has cost 2 teams nearly 1.5s a lap in comparison to the others, and Merc have admitted they have completely moved on to 2022 dev. I think they gave up the title in pre season internally.

What would be much better next season would be Mclaren and Ferrari betting in that top 4 on a Sunday genuinely fighting for wins. I fear Merc will plough enough resources in to make sure they are back in front though.

[manic-road]

Some first lap at the British GP, Max has ended up in the barrier.

[andyh]

Brilliant first half a lap, but it’s probably ruined the rest of the race, it’ll be a procession now.

Glad verstappen is ok though.

[manic-road]

Brilliant first half a lap, but it’s probably ruined the rest of the race, it’ll be a procession now.

Glad verstappen is ok though.

Yes great to see him walk away from that impact.

[UK Redsox]

Because it was lap one, I suspect that Hamilton will get away with that. However, I think that he caused the accident and should be penalised.