Indefensible home form.

[eamonn]

On the brighter side despite all the gloom two of our home goals in March are featured in the March GotM on MotD.

Did Bentekes bicycle feature in Febs?

[not3bad]

On the brighter side despite all the gloom two of our home goals in March are featured in the March GotM on MotD.

Did Bentekes bicycle feature in Febs?

No it was in March's yesterday (MOTD2).

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think we need a modern foreign coach to be our manager and serious serious financial backing and transform the club.

Look at Liverpool when Brendan Rodgers took over and now. Look at us since Paul Lambert

I think we need Manchester City type take over to transform it big time. I noticed they and Chelsea rarely buy bad players. I think we need a reboot of everything from boardroom and coaching staff and policies. I would like to see a board with Brian Little, Graham Taylor, Ron Atkinson, Sir Dennis Mortimer, Gareth Southgate and few foreign Villa ex player and get the next generation Gerald Houllier to take over Aston Villa and do it for the Villa like Arsene Wenger do it for Arsenal.

Aston Villa had been so poor it doesn't make me want to go to the match and watch them. I need passion, excitement, goals, fun and quality football. I don't need football to keep me happy as I got Salsa for this. 

When Paul Lambert took over, I thought he will be an excellent choice and make us English answer to Borussia Dortmund and use their methods. I am very disappointed it, if I own the club he already got his P45.

[Toronto Villa]

Liverpool had spent a shed load before Rodgers got there and have spent plenty since. They had a much better and deeper squad than us and have the revenue stream to carry on investing. We didn't. They also had a number of excellent PL proven players and a couple of world class ones. I understand why you might make the comparison, and not to take away what Rogers has done because he's done really well, but its apples and pears in terms of circumstances and resources.

[olaftab]

I was amazed at the crowd yesterday. There were jeers and boos of course, but on the whole they seemed pretty inured to it all. What Villa fans have gone through for the past four seasons has browbeaten them, yet they still turn up in reasonably good numbers. So much for a fickle fan base.

What I also noticed was the lack of hope and resignation to a bleak future.

Those of us turning up at VP for home matches have taken a lot of grief to accommodate the Club strategy and the manager's regular one fuck up after another. We have got there more or less in hope rather than belief. Amazing how many of us turned up still in hope for the Sheffield Utd game despite the manager denouncing the FA cup as mere  nuisance. To me that was a significant event in finally it being clear that as long as we make 17th or above every season no one will bat an eyelid.

[Des Little]

However you analyse, dress up or justify things, 10 defeats at home in one season is an absolute disgrace.  If the board think they'll retain as many as two thirds  of this year's ST holders next season, they're in for a shock.   

[andyh]

So, even if we win or draw our last 2 home games, over the last two seasons, we will have LOST 19 of our home games...50%.

Christ, that is a whole seasons worth of home games in 2 years !!!

[Des Little]

So, even if we win or draw our last 2 home games, over the last two seasons, we will have LOST 19 of our home games...50%.

Christ, that is a whole seasons worth of home games in 2 years !!!

Yep.  Proud history...

[rob_bridge]

So, even if we win or draw our last 2 home games, over the last two seasons, we will have LOST 19 of our home games...50%.

Christ, that is a whole seasons worth of home games in 2 years !!!

Abysmal.

[Steve kirk]

Being the old bastard that I am I was around in the 69-70 season when we dropped into the old 3rd division, because we were so poor that season I assumed our home form was similar to now but over 21 home games the record was W 7 D8 L6, abysmal away form sent us down, as shit as it was then It did not feel as grim as now or is that because I was a young and hopeful 14 year old?

[PaulWinch again]

I imagine that's because in those days you could recover from a low ebb. Now with the money in the game, you've got no hope.

[Steve kirk]

I imagine that's because in those days you could recover from a low ebb. Now with the money in the game, you've got no hope.

Your probably right, it was a very different football world compared to today, these days we are all so terrified of relegation from the premier league and the likely consequences.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Being the old bastard that I am I was around in the 69-70 season when we dropped into the old 3rd division, because we were so poor that season I assumed our home form was similar to now but over 21 home games the record was W 7 D8 L6, abysmal away form sent us down, as shit as it was then It did not feel as grim as now or is that because I was a young and hopeful 14 year old?

I'm the same sort of age.
Yes we were young and hopeful but with good reason. Despite the shock of relegation when we had started the season as favourites for promotion, the club had been pulled back from the brink of bankruptcy on crowds of 13,000. The short exciting Docherty period had blown the cobwebs away and Doug was sorting out the financial side. Big signings like Bruce Rioch stayed to bring us back up within a couple of seasons. These days the agents would be getting them out the club.

[robbyfvillain]

Being the old bastard that I am I was around in the 69-70 season when we dropped into the old 3rd division, because we were so poor that season I assumed our home form was similar to now but over 21 home games the record was W 7 D8 L6, abysmal away form sent us down, as shit as it was then It did not feel as grim as now or is that because I was a young and hopeful 14 year old?

I'm the same sort of age.
Yes we were young and hopeful but with good reason. Despite the shock of relegation when we had started the season as favourites for promotion, the club had been pulled back from the brink of bankruptcy on crowds of 13,000. The short exciting Docherty period had blown the cobwebs away and Doug was sorting out the financial side. Big signings like Bruce Rioch stayed to bring us back up within a couple of seasons. These days the agents would be getting them out the club.

Yep another old fart here. I think the major difference between then and now is more the way clubs are financed. Back then the majority of the finance would be through gate receipts and therefore if you were capable of generating a large following you would always have the money to fund a recovery.

Nowadays the gate money is a much lower % of turnover with most clubs generating the majority of their turnover by being in the premier league itself. Falling out of the premier league today is a disaster financially which we may take a good while to recover from.

[Phil from the upper holte]

There are people like my mate who will renew regardless, this is what the club bank on imo, I don't think the club want people to feel this way but at the end of the day as long as Lerner is there we'll struggle because he isn't putting the money in