Manchester Utd vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Villafirst]

Yet again Villa concede goals right at the end of each half. This has been happening for so many years it's untrue. When will they ever learn?

[Brian Taylor]

Hard to believe 4-1 when we started so well. You don't give the likes of Rooney that sort of room. We had them and, once again, gave it away. First half jubilant only to suffer the same old sh*te as them game progressed.

[fredm]

Couldn't really understand the tactics first half. A goal up, Clark misses a sitter, they have both full backs booked and are all over the place. What do we do? Pressurise them in their own half so they make more mistakes or take the foot off the pedal and back off into our own half and let them regain their confidence? When will we go for the jugular and keep a grip on the game.

[Rigadon]

I think most other teams in the league would've cone away with at least a point yesterday.  We are just the team you with to play if in 'crisis' as it here's have said. 

[Clampy]

Disappointed that we conceded four goals against one of the poorest Man Utd teams I've seen for years. We can't complain too much, we didn't take our chances and we gave away very sloppy goals. I thought the ref was a little bit inconsistent in his bookings as well. Also, I don't like to pick on certain players too much but I thought Gabby was awful. On the plus side, the support great again.

[silhillvilla]

I think that result and performance has angered me more than any other this season. We just literally threw it away by getting all the basics wrong.
Give Rooney acres of space - check
Dive into tackles in box at OT - check

[olaftab]

I think most other teams in the league would've cone away with at least a point yesterday. 

Most other teams?

[simboy]

Dear Premier league team,

Is your manager under pressure?
Does he need a result to quieten your fans?
Does your £20 million misfit need a goal to prove his worth?
Do you need an improved goal difference to see you into Europe?
Need a confidence boosting result before that vital European game?
Have you not won at home/away [delete as appropriate] for 10+ games?

Well help is at hand!

We will play a system that will not hamper your team,  our strikers will demonstrate that your makeshift defence IS the best in Europe. Our defenders will not mark your attackers too tightly so that out of form midfielder can get his passing range and look like Messi, amd our Midfield will run around like headless chickens with no puprose.

Please apply for the full 3 points to:-

Paul Lambert
Villa Park
B6

[Fin Feds Dad]

Couldn't really understand the tactics first half. A goal up, Clark misses a sitter, they have both full backs booked and are all over the place. What do we do? Pressurise them in their own half so they make more mistakes or take the foot off the pedal and back off into our own half and let them regain their confidence? When will we go for the jugular and keep a grip on the game.

When we get a manager who is not tactically clueless .

[baddowvillans]

So in the cold light of day

This WAS an opportunity lost. It was a game we were in for longer than the final scoreline suggests and yes I agree that if Beneteke buries the chance at 2-1 it could have been very different. In the end though the media revelled in a return to "form" for united.  Not the worst we have played but still an opportunity missed

Questions

1. Why having taken the lead last week and then lost the game by stopping playing why did we proceed to do exactly the same thing again. What do the coaching team do all week?

2.  After two seasons of team building by Lambert how many players are really good enough to be starters in the Premier League?  Not enough for me. 24 months down the track we should see a structure developing but there is none

3.  What does Lambert do. Perhaps the team have detailed instructions before the game which when we win they have executed perfectly but I never see him coaching or directing and given the performances I can't believe this is because they are doing as instructed

We won't be relegated and I know Lerner is likely to keep the manager but for me he just isn't good enough and hasn't done enough to show "progress" justifying a new contract. Let's change in Summer and wish him well with whoever he takes into the Championship. Just not us

[aj2k77]

When a managers biggest achievement is keeping a side in the Premier League what do you expect. Aston Villa aim just above the gutter and that's  what we hit right now.

[VillaAlways]

Dear Premier league team,

Is your manager under pressure?
Does he need a result to quieten your fans?
Does your £20 million misfit need a goal to prove his worth?
Do you need an improved goal difference to see you into Europe?
Need a confidence boosting result before that vital European game?
Have you not won at home/away [delete as appropriate] for 10+ games?

Well help is at hand!

We will play a system that will not hamper your team,  our strikers will demonstrate that your makeshift defence IS the best in Europe. Our defenders will not mark your attackers too tightly so that out of form midfielder can get his passing range and look like Messi, amd our Midfield will run around like headless chickens with no puprose.

Please apply for the full 3 points to:-

Paul Lambert
Villa Park
B6

Brilliant post !

[Ron Manager]

Mornin everyone. Put your clocks forward? then we will begin. A better performance than against Stoke generally but the defensive marking was shocking. Wayne Rooney had so much space for their first it was total incompetance at its finest. Just as we thought the defence was finally starting to look like a cohesive unit they proved us wrong. As most of us have commented recently Lambert is just not good enough .His coaching staff do not appear to have the ability to coach. Three or four of the players are not of a standard to play in the top division. They do not have the skills or intelligence required.You can get away with one or two but not three or four.

Whats going to happen then? Nothing!  We will probably escape relegation.Benteke will no doubt score a couple for Belguim in the World Cup and then go somewhere else. The manager will sign an improved contract. His coaching staff will also stay and carry on doing whatever
they do during the week and the club owner will say absolutely nothing.

Depressing isnt it? But at least we are currently in the top division and perhaps for the moment we should be grateful for that.

At some stage in the future there will be changes at Villa Park. Anything would be acceptable that starts to take the club forward again.

[Brian Taylor]

Dear Premier league team,

Is your manager under pressure?
Does he need a result to quieten your fans?
Does your £20 million misfit need a goal to prove his worth?
Do you need an improved goal difference to see you into Europe?
Need a confidence boosting result before that vital European game?
Have you not won at home/away [delete as appropriate] for 10+ games?

Well help is at hand!

We will play a system that will not hamper your team,  our strikers will demonstrate that your makeshift defence IS the best in Europe. Our defenders will not mark your attackers too tightly so that out of form midfielder can get his passing range and look like Messi, amd our Midfield will run around like headless chickens with no puprose.

Please apply for the full 3 points to:-

Paul Lambert
Villa Park
B6

Brilliant post !

Sums it up!!!

[Hillbilly]

Also talk of giving these guys bumper new deals is just ridiculous also - what have they done to earn them.  It might sound silly but I have just watched a programme about World War II when Churchill decided to sink the French Naval ship in Algeria.  The French naval officer who had to swim for his life through boiling hot oil had me nearly in tears, then I watch a load of not very good football players running around a pitch in sunshine for an hour and a half and picking up £30k no matter what the outcome and it puts everything in perspective.  Fcukin shite.

so the French naval officer would've scored a hatrick at old Trafford to win the game? I know what you're saying and agree to an extent, but its a false comparison really.

I am saying the French Naval Officer is worth £30k a day for trying to save a generation of people from succumbing to a Nazi dictatorship.  But I am fairly sure he would have played better than Bacuna did today into the bargain.

French footballers from WW2? Non merci...