Season Tickets 2014/15

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I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not good PR though. Considering the results and football we've witnessed at home this season you might have thought the club would have made a good will gesture of a price freeze just as a nod to the fans.

They have frozen the price though.

[taylorsworkrate]

I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not when peoples wages aren't rising anywhere near the level of inflation. But I suppose that's a different argument.

[saunders_heroes]

I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not good PR though. Considering the results and football we've witnessed at home this season you might have thought the club would have made a good will gesture of a price freeze just as a nod to the fans.

They have frozen the price though.

You should work for the club!

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I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not when peoples wages aren't rising anywhere near the level of inflation. But I suppose that's a different argument.

Yes, it will depend a lot on the individual. Some may have lost out on all their wages, some may have found employment and can start affording season tickets again. That's out of the club's control though as you say. Not that they shouldn't understand their demographic.

Edit: I suppose if you have a mortgage and loan then you do keep up with the inflationary increase, as your debt has been devalued.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not good PR though. Considering the results and football we've witnessed at home this season you might have thought the club would have made a good will gesture of a price freeze just as a nod to the fans.

They have frozen the price though.

You should work for the club!

Let's see if you can go a day without picking an argument shall we?

[saunders_heroes]

I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not good PR though. Considering the results and football we've witnessed at home this season you might have thought the club would have made a good will gesture of a price freeze just as a nod to the fans.

They have frozen the price though.

You should work for the club!

Let's see if you can go a day without picking an argument shall we?

The same could be said for lots of people on here.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not good PR though. Considering the results and football we've witnessed at home this season you might have thought the club would have made a good will gesture of a price freeze just as a nod to the fans.

They have frozen the price though.

You should work for the club!

Let's see if you can go a day without picking an argument shall we?

The same could be said for lots of people on here.

It's being said to you.

[eastie]

I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Depends whether you feel you are getting good value for your money.

The club are caught in a bind really. To be more successful we need to increase income, the club have decided in the case of certain areas of the ground to make inflation matching increases, so they're not making any more revenue from these increases, they're just matching the position they were in previously.

Possibly so, but they are also profiting from a vastly improved tv deal  and I can understand some being pissed off at the prices when you look at the sort of wages being paid to under performing footballers .

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 The club are not operating in a vacuum though. 19 other clubs will benefit from the increases in the TV money from this summer on. I can imagine that most of that money will follow the same route that increases in revenue in football have followed for 25 years; agents and players.

You cannot operate at the top with a monoeconomic revenue stream, because other clubs will beat you down with their resources.

I am all for a German style re-appraisal of things, but that ship sailed 22 years ago.

[saunders_heroes]

I don't see too much wrong with a rise in-line with inflation, which is ultimately a price freeze in any event.

Not good PR though. Considering the results and football we've witnessed at home this season you might have thought the club would have made a good will gesture of a price freeze just as a nod to the fans.

They have frozen the price though.

You should work for the club!

Let's see if you can go a day without picking an argument shall we?

The same could be said for lots of people on here.

It's being said to you.

I know it is and I've taken it on board, but it could be said to a few others as well.

[mrastonvilla]

I've benefited from the change of age categories from U16 to U18. My lads season ticket would have gone from £160 to £430 and probably put me off renewing to be honest given the cost of travel and the poor home form. I'll probably renew now as we can easily get the money back on games we can't attend through viagogo.

[saunders_heroes]

The club are not operating in a vacuum though. 19 other clubs will benefit from the increases in the TV money from this summer on. I can imagine that most of that money will follow the same route that increases in revenue in football have followed for 25 years; agents and players.

You cannot operate at the top with a monoeconomic revenue stream, because other clubs will beat you down with their resources.

I am all for a German style re-appraisal of things, but that ship sailed 22 years ago.

But what if the ST price increase ends up being the reason why fans don't renew and the club actually ends up losing out?

[eastie]

Its a sad state of affairs that such a huge proportion of the money paid by hard working fans into football goes on obscene wages and payments to agents.

[amfy]

on the accounts thread there was a comparison with other club's revenue streams and the money that comes in from supporters was significantly lower than other clubs.

The same 'similar sized' clubs who we constantly complain we should be competing with seem to be bringing an extra £6million or so through the gate, and it would seem their fans buy more merchandise too.

It would also seem that this extra revenue has been obtained largely, not by having bigger crowds, but by charging more.

It unfortunate that they have felt the need to put prices up at a time when so many are pretty fed up already but maybe the club would have been in a better posittion to freeze prices at point when they hadn't already frozen prices for years on end.

At some point, it does have to go up. The timing is poor, but irrelevant to whether I renew unless it becomes unaffordable.

Yes, it would have been a nice gesture, but look at the people saying they'd have had to halve the price to get them in again - how does this affect them?

The real questions are simply:
Do I want to renew?
Can afford it?

I would argue that these price rises have no effect on either answer.

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The club are not operating in a vacuum though. 19 other clubs will benefit from the increases in the TV money from this summer on. I can imagine that most of that money will follow the same route that increases in revenue in football have followed for 25 years; agents and players.

You cannot operate at the top with a monoeconomic revenue stream, because other clubs will beat you down with their resources.

I am all for a German style re-appraisal of things, but that ship sailed 22 years ago.

But what if the ST price increase ends up being the reason why fans don't renew and the club actually ends up losing out?

That's something the club will have factored in.

I am not sure how much should be read into late winter posts on the internet about "all of my mates won't be renewing and we've had season tickets for 30 years" sort of stuff.

The summer is a different time, you have signings going on in conjunction with increased temperatures and sunshine to get the serotonin and dopamine pumping.

By and large, our season tickets have been pretty steady for a very long time now. While the current home form might do little to attract the casual fan, I don't foresee the cliff face drop off some are bandying about.