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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #90 on: March 04, 2014, 04:42:26 PM »
Is Tonev the new Ian Ormondroyd?

A regular in a team that finishes runners-up? I hope so.

Exactly , ormondroyd played a big part in our runners up season and was well worth the fee.


Agreed, nothing wrong with ormandroyd, gave it all every time in a villa shirt,
He was only very average but still made the most of what he had,
Anyone remember the WHL night match ?


Was that the game he was nearly in tears ?  If that is the game he could not do anything right,  there was a throw in which he had turned to chase and it hit him on the back of the head , really felt for him.  He was distraught and I think a player comforted him on the the way off at halftime ??

I thought John meant the 2-0 win there when it looked like we were going to piss the league. Then along came Wimbledon next game.

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #91 on: March 04, 2014, 04:48:01 PM »
Is Tonev the new Ian Ormondroyd?

A regular in a team that finishes runners-up? I hope so.

Exactly , ormondroyd played a big part in our runners up season and was well worth the fee.


Agreed, nothing wrong with ormandroyd, gave it all every time in a villa shirt,
He was only very average but still made the most of what he had,
Anyone remember the WHL night match ?


Was that the game he was nearly in tears ?  If that is the game he could not do anything right,  there was a throw in which he had turned to chase and it hit him on the back of the head , really felt for him.  He was distraught and I think a player comforted him on the the way off at halftime ??

I thought John meant the 2-0 win there when it looked like we were going to piss the league. Then along came Wimbledon next game.

I was not sure I just remember being at a game where he was having a mare and felt really bad for him

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2014, 04:58:07 PM »
I like Kozak, but signing him looks like bad judgement when we're so lacking in attacking midfield. Looked like an indulgence, especially at the price.

That's if you think it was an either or decision.

Too often we assume that we do not sign players because the manager didn't want to rather than them not being available or not agreeing to terms or choosing to go elsewhere.

You can only fully judge this process at the end.

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2014, 05:16:26 PM »
I like Kozak, but signing him looks like bad judgement when we're so lacking in attacking midfield. Looked like an indulgence, especially at the price.

That's if you think it was an either or decision.

Too often we assume that we do not sign players because the manager didn't want to rather than them not being available or not agreeing to terms or choosing to go elsewhere.

You can only fully judge this process at the end.

Correct, Kozak was a long term target who became available , the 'number 10' we wanted it seems wasn't available at that time.

Regarding Kozak - what I've seen so far suggests at £7m he will prove a good value for money signing.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2014, 05:18:33 PM by eastie »

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2014, 05:19:01 PM »
Is Tonev the new Ian Ormondroyd?

A regular in a team that finishes runners-up? I hope so.

Exactly , ormondroyd played a big part in our runners up season and was well worth the fee.


Agreed, nothing wrong with ormandroyd, gave it all every time in a villa shirt,
He was only very average but still made the most of what he had,
Anyone remember the WHL night match ?

Yes I do, didn't we go top of the league that night?

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2014, 05:58:17 PM »
Is Tonev the new Ian Ormondroyd?

A regular in a team that finishes runners-up? I hope so.

Exactly , ormondroyd played a big part in our runners up season and was well worth the fee.


Agreed, nothing wrong with ormandroyd, gave it all every time in a villa shirt,
He was only very average but still made the most of what he had,
Anyone remember the WHL night match ?

Yes I do, didn't we go top of the league that night?


Yep, he scored we went top, we were happy for a moment

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2014, 06:09:04 PM »
Tonev's still got time to turn into a good player, he's never really had enough of an extended run in the first team to find any form. Luna's the same really, he's shown he can play well and people forget he's only 22.

For me the worst signing's been Bowery, I don't think I've seen him have a good game, and considering the level he came from, I can't understand the reasoning for his signing.

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2014, 06:16:13 PM »
I like Kozak, but signing him looks like bad judgement when we're so lacking in attacking midfield. Looked like an indulgence, especially at the price.

That's if you think it was an either or decision.

Too often we assume that we do not sign players because the manager didn't want to rather than them not being available or not agreeing to terms or choosing to go elsewhere.

You can only fully judge this process at the end.

Correct, Kozak was a long term target who became available , the 'number 10' we wanted it seems wasn't available at that time.

Regarding Kozak - what I've seen so far suggests at £7m he will prove a good value for money signing.

I think Kozak will turn out to be an astute signing, at the time he was signed it looked like Benteke would be leaving.

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2014, 07:04:15 PM »
Culverhouse is just as culpable as Lambert in the inadequacies of coaching the best out of the players we do have (Tonev - don't shoot from thirty yards out, Weimann - don't snatch a shooting opportunities, KEA -front up your opponent just like you did against Norwich, Bennett - don't roam in field, Baker - don't let one mistake blow your game to pieces, - Vlaar - you are the captain talk to the referee frequently but respectfully etc etc).   As I have commented on other threads you can see there is a good team in there when we play like we did in the second quarter last Saturday.   That ability has to be brought out and that is Lambert's job and equally the job of the team he was allowed to bring with him.   You can carry a dud player or two, you can't carry a dud coach.

From what I've read on Norwich forums, they rate Culverhouse above Lambert and would have him back tomorrow. They credit him as the footballing brains behind the pair with Lambert best serving as the figurehead. There was a few stories of how Culverhouse would prepare the team during the week, tactics, formation, set pieces etc only for Lambert to come in on a Friday and change everything leaving the players clueless to what they're supposed to do.

I remember when Lambert came, i looked on their forums and to be honest, it was Gary Karsa they were talking about like that - how he'd prepare pretty scientific reports on opponents, work on how to set the team up against them etc etc

You're memory is playing tricks on you, Paulie. Karsa studies videos and prepares dossiers on the opposition then hands them over to Lambert. He's basically (apart from being his brother-in-law) Lambert's PA, a bit like AVB was to Mourinho at Chelsea. I doubt very much he's involved in anything regarding tactics or how we set up. That responsibility lies with Lambert and Culverhouse. Karsa may assist Culverhouse in training sessions but it's not his main role.

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2014, 07:06:00 PM »
He's his brother-in-law?

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2014, 07:29:49 PM »
Yup.

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2014, 07:34:40 PM »
I never knew that. It's not what you know, it's who you know. Jobs for the boys?

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2014, 07:40:39 PM »
I've no idea, Legion. Karsa isn't without his own qualifications and experience. Lambert has worked with him since Wycombe I think, so obviously trusts him.

As Lambert described his back room set up: “I just think our thinking is not too dissimilar. Ian does brilliantly on the coaching side and Gary has done brilliantly on the other side.”

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2014, 08:16:01 PM »
Got to be Tonev for me!
  how long have you got.

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Re: Lambert's worst signing?
« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2014, 08:21:54 PM »
I thought Paul Lambert was divorced.   Has he re-married?

 


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