Quote from: Dave Clark Five on March 06, 2014, 10:20:09 AMQuote from: Concrete John on March 06, 2014, 10:03:02 AMQuote from: Rudy Lambert on March 05, 2014, 01:49:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on March 05, 2014, 11:22:35 AMAn argument can be made - a relatively convincing one - that he should stay in the job, but I can't see any way you could make an argument that he deserves a pay rise.True. I'd imagine if a list was drawn up as to why he should stay in his job, none of the main reasons would be related to the prime task of his job; the football.Isn't there?If you mean the style elements, then that's very subjective and hard to quantify. I think his prime task is football RESULTS, and compared to 28 games played last season we've won 3 more games and lost 1 less, scored 5 more goals and let 15 less in, and have 7 more points.I don't think that's necessarily anything to go wild about, but does show that something is movig in the right direction on the pitch. Only relative to the rest of the division, which is far weaker this season than last. You would have to be shockingly bad to get relegated. I wonder how football can exist below us when most of the top flight teams are crap.Using 'only relative to the rest of the division' is a fairly pedantic argument.You have to have a subjective measure of improvement, points and league position is the way it has always been done.
Quote from: Concrete John on March 06, 2014, 10:03:02 AMQuote from: Rudy Lambert on March 05, 2014, 01:49:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on March 05, 2014, 11:22:35 AMAn argument can be made - a relatively convincing one - that he should stay in the job, but I can't see any way you could make an argument that he deserves a pay rise.True. I'd imagine if a list was drawn up as to why he should stay in his job, none of the main reasons would be related to the prime task of his job; the football.Isn't there?If you mean the style elements, then that's very subjective and hard to quantify. I think his prime task is football RESULTS, and compared to 28 games played last season we've won 3 more games and lost 1 less, scored 5 more goals and let 15 less in, and have 7 more points.I don't think that's necessarily anything to go wild about, but does show that something is movig in the right direction on the pitch. Only relative to the rest of the division, which is far weaker this season than last. You would have to be shockingly bad to get relegated. I wonder how football can exist below us when most of the top flight teams are crap.
Quote from: Rudy Lambert on March 05, 2014, 01:49:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on March 05, 2014, 11:22:35 AMAn argument can be made - a relatively convincing one - that he should stay in the job, but I can't see any way you could make an argument that he deserves a pay rise.True. I'd imagine if a list was drawn up as to why he should stay in his job, none of the main reasons would be related to the prime task of his job; the football.Isn't there?If you mean the style elements, then that's very subjective and hard to quantify. I think his prime task is football RESULTS, and compared to 28 games played last season we've won 3 more games and lost 1 less, scored 5 more goals and let 15 less in, and have 7 more points.I don't think that's necessarily anything to go wild about, but does show that something is movig in the right direction on the pitch.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on March 05, 2014, 11:22:35 AMAn argument can be made - a relatively convincing one - that he should stay in the job, but I can't see any way you could make an argument that he deserves a pay rise.True. I'd imagine if a list was drawn up as to why he should stay in his job, none of the main reasons would be related to the prime task of his job; the football.
An argument can be made - a relatively convincing one - that he should stay in the job, but I can't see any way you could make an argument that he deserves a pay rise.
Man City wouldn't be so high in the league if all the teams below them weren't so poor.
I am saying that I find it a bit daft to use the line of "if it wasn't for the others being so poor" line. It swings both ways.
Quote from: Ads on March 06, 2014, 10:53:55 AMI am saying that I find it a bit daft to use the line of "if it wasn't for the others being so poor" line. It swings both ways. It does but we should only be concerned with our potential predicament and not the situation that Man City find themselves in.
It's just a bit simplistic to say "we only doing better because everyone else is worse".
Quote from: Dave on March 06, 2014, 11:03:36 AMIt's just a bit simplistic to say "we only doing better because everyone else is worse".It's the natural counter to the actual stats for this season for those who base their judgements on the style of play and not results. I have no beef with someone saying "We're doing better, but it's not as exciting as I thought it would be or that it should be." What I do think is worth challenging is the standpoint that we're awful and lucky to be where we are due to crapness of teams around us.
Quote from: Concrete John on March 06, 2014, 11:10:34 AMQuote from: Dave on March 06, 2014, 11:03:36 AMIt's just a bit simplistic to say "we only doing better because everyone else is worse".It's the natural counter to the actual stats for this season for those who base their judgements on the style of play and not results. I have no beef with someone saying "We're doing better, but it's not as exciting as I thought it would be or that it should be." What I do think is worth challenging is the standpoint that we're awful and lucky to be where we are due to crapness of teams around us. If we stay up on 37 points with the three relegated teams obviously getting less, I think it would be fair to say that, in nearly every other Premier League season, that amount of points would have seen us drop. The only reason that we wouldn't is the below average points total of the relegated teams. Below average - worse than normal.
Quote from: Dave Clark Five on March 06, 2014, 11:22:02 AMQuote from: Concrete John on March 06, 2014, 11:10:34 AMQuote from: Dave on March 06, 2014, 11:03:36 AMIt's just a bit simplistic to say "we only doing better because everyone else is worse".It's the natural counter to the actual stats for this season for those who base their judgements on the style of play and not results. I have no beef with someone saying "We're doing better, but it's not as exciting as I thought it would be or that it should be." What I do think is worth challenging is the standpoint that we're awful and lucky to be where we are due to crapness of teams around us. If we stay up on 37 points with the three relegated teams obviously getting less, I think it would be fair to say that, in nearly every other Premier League season, that amount of points would have seen us drop. The only reason that we wouldn't is the below average points total of the relegated teams. Below average - worse than normal.Well, if that happened you'd have a valid argument. However, it hasn't yet and doesn't look like it's going to.
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