I don't entirely agree. You want someone's reassurance, not necessarily the owner. It goes back to a debate we had on here a few moths ago - the club needs a figurehead (not a president or the mythical 'football man') who is respected by supporters and the general football public, who can offer such reassurance that things are either moving in the right direction or being dealt with.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:34:03 PMQuote from: Isa on February 26, 2014, 11:28:48 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:49:51 PMThe bottom line is something I found out a long time ago; the only thing that matters to the vast majority of supporters is how the team is doing. Randy could live on Mars if we were in the top half of the table. None of this week's outpouring of rage would have happened if it was us who'd scored in stoppage time on Sunday. Yes but it is in a time of crisis that you want to feel reassured by the owner's presence and leadership.I don't entirely agree. You want someone's reassurance, not necessarily the owner. It goes back to a debate we had on here a few months ago - the club needs a figurehead (not a president or the mythical 'football man') who is respected by supporters and the general football public, who can offer such reassurance that things are either moving in the right direction or being dealt with. Any suggestions, Dave?
Quote from: Isa on February 26, 2014, 11:28:48 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:49:51 PMThe bottom line is something I found out a long time ago; the only thing that matters to the vast majority of supporters is how the team is doing. Randy could live on Mars if we were in the top half of the table. None of this week's outpouring of rage would have happened if it was us who'd scored in stoppage time on Sunday. Yes but it is in a time of crisis that you want to feel reassured by the owner's presence and leadership.I don't entirely agree. You want someone's reassurance, not necessarily the owner. It goes back to a debate we had on here a few months ago - the club needs a figurehead (not a president or the mythical 'football man') who is respected by supporters and the general football public, who can offer such reassurance that things are either moving in the right direction or being dealt with.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:49:51 PMThe bottom line is something I found out a long time ago; the only thing that matters to the vast majority of supporters is how the team is doing. Randy could live on Mars if we were in the top half of the table. None of this week's outpouring of rage would have happened if it was us who'd scored in stoppage time on Sunday. Yes but it is in a time of crisis that you want to feel reassured by the owner's presence and leadership.
The bottom line is something I found out a long time ago; the only thing that matters to the vast majority of supporters is how the team is doing. Randy could live on Mars if we were in the top half of the table. None of this week's outpouring of rage would have happened if it was us who'd scored in stoppage time on Sunday.
I doubt if he's doing it to get a few Facebook likes. He sounds like a passionate long time Villa fan, just like every other Villa fan I guess. Perhaps he's just fed up with the way Lerner and co are running the club?The club has been in decline for 4 years now and doesn't seem to be any sign of it getting any better. What's your view on it?
Quote from: villajk on February 26, 2014, 11:42:09 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:34:03 PMQuote from: Isa on February 26, 2014, 11:28:48 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:49:51 PMThe bottom line is something I found out a long time ago; the only thing that matters to the vast majority of supporters is how the team is doing. Randy could live on Mars if we were in the top half of the table. None of this week's outpouring of rage would have happened if it was us who'd scored in stoppage time on Sunday. Yes but it is in a time of crisis that you want to feel reassured by the owner's presence and leadership.I don't entirely agree. You want someone's reassurance, not necessarily the owner. It goes back to a debate we had on here a few months ago - the club needs a figurehead (not a president or the mythical 'football man') who is respected by supporters and the general football public, who can offer such reassurance that things are either moving in the right direction or being dealt with. Any suggestions, Dave?I said Charlie Aitken last time.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:38:16 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:36:24 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:31:07 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:27:45 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it. A lot of people are saying a lot of things. It doesn't mean that they are right or that their opinions deserve to go unchallenged.He's said his piece and he's entitled to do so and he's been thrown out of the Directors because of it. Good luck luck to him, I agree with everything he's said, and it's good to see prominent Villa fans actually standing up and protesting at the way Villa have gone into decline over the last 4 years. I don't see much of that from you, Dave, and you're the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine. In fact i often see you jumping to Lerner's defence on here. Why is that?Because it's what I think, maybe? Do you expect me to change my opinion because it's fashionable or might get a few likes on Facebook?I doubt if he's doing it to get a few Facebook likes. He sounds like a passionate long time Villa fan, just like every other Villa fan I guess. Perhaps he's just fed up with the way Lerner and co are running the club?The club has been in decline for 4 years now and doesn't seem to be any sign of it getting any better. What's your view on it?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:36:24 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:31:07 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:27:45 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it. A lot of people are saying a lot of things. It doesn't mean that they are right or that their opinions deserve to go unchallenged.He's said his piece and he's entitled to do so and he's been thrown out of the Directors because of it. Good luck luck to him, I agree with everything he's said, and it's good to see prominent Villa fans actually standing up and protesting at the way Villa have gone into decline over the last 4 years. I don't see much of that from you, Dave, and you're the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine. In fact i often see you jumping to Lerner's defence on here. Why is that?Because it's what I think, maybe? Do you expect me to change my opinion because it's fashionable or might get a few likes on Facebook?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:31:07 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:27:45 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it. A lot of people are saying a lot of things. It doesn't mean that they are right or that their opinions deserve to go unchallenged.He's said his piece and he's entitled to do so and he's been thrown out of the Directors because of it. Good luck luck to him, I agree with everything he's said, and it's good to see prominent Villa fans actually standing up and protesting at the way Villa have gone into decline over the last 4 years. I don't see much of that from you, Dave, and you're the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine. In fact i often see you jumping to Lerner's defence on here. Why is that?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:27:45 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it. A lot of people are saying a lot of things. It doesn't mean that they are right or that their opinions deserve to go unchallenged.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors.
It could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:42:51 PMI doubt if he's doing it to get a few Facebook likes. He sounds like a passionate long time Villa fan, just like every other Villa fan I guess. Perhaps he's just fed up with the way Lerner and co are running the club?The club has been in decline for 4 years now and doesn't seem to be any sign of it getting any better. What's your view on it?I think money will be spent in the summer and it'll be interesting to see how opinions will change again once it is.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:42:51 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:38:16 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:36:24 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:31:07 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:27:45 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it. A lot of people are saying a lot of things. It doesn't mean that they are right or that their opinions deserve to go unchallenged.He's said his piece and he's entitled to do so and he's been thrown out of the Directors because of it. Good luck luck to him, I agree with everything he's said, and it's good to see prominent Villa fans actually standing up and protesting at the way Villa have gone into decline over the last 4 years. I don't see much of that from you, Dave, and you're the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine. In fact i often see you jumping to Lerner's defence on here. Why is that?Because it's what I think, maybe? Do you expect me to change my opinion because it's fashionable or might get a few likes on Facebook?I doubt if he's doing it to get a few Facebook likes. He sounds like a passionate long time Villa fan, just like every other Villa fan I guess. Perhaps he's just fed up with the way Lerner and co are running the club?The club has been in decline for 4 years now and doesn't seem to be any sign of it getting any better. What's your view on it?If Doug were still the owner and we were in this position, both on and off the field, there would be a shit storm of biblical proportions flung against him.
Quote from: Fergal on February 26, 2014, 11:49:23 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:42:51 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:38:16 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:36:24 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:31:07 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:27:45 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it. A lot of people are saying a lot of things. It doesn't mean that they are right or that their opinions deserve to go unchallenged.He's said his piece and he's entitled to do so and he's been thrown out of the Directors because of it. Good luck luck to him, I agree with everything he's said, and it's good to see prominent Villa fans actually standing up and protesting at the way Villa have gone into decline over the last 4 years. I don't see much of that from you, Dave, and you're the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine. In fact i often see you jumping to Lerner's defence on here. Why is that?Because it's what I think, maybe? Do you expect me to change my opinion because it's fashionable or might get a few likes on Facebook?I doubt if he's doing it to get a few Facebook likes. He sounds like a passionate long time Villa fan, just like every other Villa fan I guess. Perhaps he's just fed up with the way Lerner and co are running the club?The club has been in decline for 4 years now and doesn't seem to be any sign of it getting any better. What's your view on it?If Doug were still the owner and we were in this position, both on and off the field, there would be a shit storm of biblical proportions flung against him. Oh without a shadow of a doubt.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:51:03 PMQuote from: Fergal on February 26, 2014, 11:49:23 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:42:51 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:38:16 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:36:24 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:31:07 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:27:45 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:17:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 10:35:34 PMIt could be taken a bit more seriously if he hadn't just had a falling out with the board. He was saying this stuff way before they booted him out of the directors. And he wonders why they did?Well at least he had the balls to say it. A lot of people are saying a lot of things. It doesn't mean that they are right or that their opinions deserve to go unchallenged.He's said his piece and he's entitled to do so and he's been thrown out of the Directors because of it. Good luck luck to him, I agree with everything he's said, and it's good to see prominent Villa fans actually standing up and protesting at the way Villa have gone into decline over the last 4 years. I don't see much of that from you, Dave, and you're the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine. In fact i often see you jumping to Lerner's defence on here. Why is that?Because it's what I think, maybe? Do you expect me to change my opinion because it's fashionable or might get a few likes on Facebook?I doubt if he's doing it to get a few Facebook likes. He sounds like a passionate long time Villa fan, just like every other Villa fan I guess. Perhaps he's just fed up with the way Lerner and co are running the club?The club has been in decline for 4 years now and doesn't seem to be any sign of it getting any better. What's your view on it?If Doug were still the owner and we were in this position, both on and off the field, there would be a shit storm of biblical proportions flung against him. Oh without a shadow of a doubt. So how does Randy get away with it?
I think money will be spent in the summer and it'll be interesting to see how opinions will change again once it is.
I don't entirely agree. You want someone's reassurance, not necessarily the owner. It goes back to a debate we had on here a few months ago - the club needs a figurehead (not a president or the mythical 'football man') who is respected by supporters and the general football public, who can offer such reassurance that things are either moving in the right direction or being dealt with.